Edwin Pawlowski > wrote:

> "Victor Sack" > wrote
> >
> > You didn't get it. Pity, in more sense than one.
>
> Thanks, but I don't need your pity.

Here it is anyway, no need to thank me.

> > Personally, I would never even consider buying anything that was
> > possibly manufactured in China/Laogai. If faced with no choice, I would
> > rather buy that reverseless Panasonic, or else a German-, Czech-, or
> > Polish-made manual grinder. Or do without.
>
> Your choice.

Your reply says rather a lot about *your* choice.

> > As to 220/240V circuits in US homes, they are actually there quasi by
> > default - 220/240 volts is the basic service into most US houses, except
> > older ones.
>
> No shit. I've wired a few houses in my day. My point is, the typical US
> kitchen does not have a 22V line and there is realy no need for one.

So, if you used to wire houses, it should be obvious to you that most
every US kitchen does have a 220V line. Those two 110V wires add up to
220V. And a lot of those typical kitchens even have at least one
ready-to-use 220V outlet. Into what do you think all those electric
ranges and ovens are plugged.... the owner's derrière?

> Victor, you really should learn the code. We don't use water pipes any
> more.

Back to hauling buckets of water from the village well? :-)

> > However, the outlets *are* available in many houses and I have
> > seen them myself.
>
> Yes, for dryers, ranges, large air conditioners.

And those ranges, as well as ovens, are usually installed in the
kitchen.

> >The question here is solely whether they are already
> > availalble or can be easily installed in a particular house where a meat
> > grinder or another 220/240V appliance is desired.
>
> As I stated, the question is one of practicality. There is no logical
> reason to install a 220 line in a US kitchen for appliance use.

This subthread alone proves you wrong. If one wants to avoid buying a
meat grinder possibly manufactured in the Laogai, one's only real choice
is a 220V grinder. And there is no need to install a 220V line, just an
extra outlet.

Victor