In article >,
sherwindu > wrote:

> Jack Schmidling wrote:
>
> > Pan Ohco wrote:
> >
> > > That's right Billy, just because people were talking religious, or non
> > > religious holiday, don't let that interrupt your anti America/Isreal
> > > rant.
> >
> > Truth hurts. How many Israeli or American spies are in jail for
> > stealing or allowing our atomic bomb secrets to be stolen by Israel?
>
> You ought to check your facts before you spout off. Israel never got
> any technology from the USA on how to build an atomic bomb. They
> may have gotten some nuclear fuel, but that's another story. It's the
> Russians that stole our atomic secrets, not Israel.
>
Sherwin, your ignorance can be breath taking. Everybody knew how to
build an atomic bomb in the 1940's. It's the purifying of the U235 that
was the hurdle, a very expensive hurdle. At the time it was a theory,
and there was no guarantee that it would work.

http://www.nuclearfiles.org/menu/key.../issues/prolif
eration/chronology-fissile-material-theft.htm

1957-1965
Between 1957 and 1965, 100 kilograms of uranium 235 disappeared from a
nuclear scrap recycling plant in Apollo, Pennsylvania. The material was
weapons grade and suitable for making more than one bomb. The president
of the firm was reported to have close ties with Israel. The mystery was
never solved.

1968
The coaster, Scheersberg-A sets sail from Antwerp to Genoa with two
hundred tons of uranium. The boat does not arrive in Italy as scheduled
but in Iskenderun Turkey, empty of its cargo. Years later the owner of
the ship was located in a Norwegian prison and identified as an Isreali
secret agent.

And of course it is just a coincidence that Israel is our "junk-yard dog
in the middle east. You know. The place where our oil is.
> >
> >
> > Why aren't we content with statments like "thought to have bombs" or
> > "Israel chooses to be ambiguous about their weapons programs" from or
> > about Iran?
>
> Israel doesn't threaten to destroy her neighbors as does Iran. Nor does
> she give aid and comfort to terrorists fighting our troops in Iraq. Big
> difference.

But Israel has the bomb doesn't it? Everybody knows that. They even put
Mordechai Vanunu in jail for talking about what everybody knows. They
have the bomb but they don't want anyone else in the middle east to have
it. Israel attacked Iraq over a nuclear program. Israel just attacked
Syria. Israel kept attacking civilians in Lebanon when the rest of the
world, except Condi, wanted a cease fire. Kill civilians to make your
point. Israel is turning "occupied" Palestine into a vast prison that
makes South Africa's bantustans look good by comparison. Just ask Bishop
Desmond Tutu.

The problems in the middle east will not stop until Israel's ethnic
cleansing does.
>
> >
> >
> > BTW, my wife picked up a very nice "Winter Tree" ornament to hang on her
> > "holiday tree" for Xmas. How comforting it is not to offend anyone.
> >
> > js
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Billy

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