jay wrote:
> Sheldon wrote:
> > To me plastic laminate countertops make more sense, you can change
> > your countertop five times and still not spend the cost of granite.
> > With granite unless you are independantly wealthy you need to live
> > with the same look your entire lifetime or move, and then you will not
> > recoupe any more money for used granite counters as you will for used
> > plastic laminate counters. �And plastic laminate is no longer your
> > mother's old Formica: �http://formica.com/publish/site/na/us/en/index.html
>
>
> It makes more sense to you and since you have plastic laminate ..I approve..
> I have seen the pictures of your counter tops and they are your mother's
> old Formica. �

We haven't seen your hovel, too embarrasssed, eh.

Your arguments about the need to change natural stone
> counters on some regular frequency are about as valid as the need to change
> brick or stone facades on some frequency. �Natural stone is timeless. �

That's my point, I don't want timeless... there's plenty of time for
timeless in the grave... life is way too short for timeless.

It
> is obvious that your plastic has not been changed since birth. �One could
> argue that because you spent $$$$$$$ money on a HUMMER size/price tractor
> for a relatively tiny piece of dirt is an IQ problem

You have no idea how much dirt I own or it's worth.


or that your Range
> Rover is all about status

My 1991 Lasndcruiser has nothing to do with status, it's old and dated
like many of my belongings... I bought it the first year it was
offered, there was no status attached to it then, in fact just the
opposite, it didn't cost much then either.


and ain't working as a women magnet.. another IQ
> problem.

I've had more than my fill of women, that's the last thing I need is
more women in my life... and real women ain't interested in symbolic
wealth... says something about the air headed sluts you persue.

> Your experience marketing real estate is limited to how many sales? �

A larger number than you can count on all your fingers and toes twice
over.

A
> timely real estate sale is all about price and nothing else. �If the price
> is right a sale will occur. �


Price is the least determining factor, that's why there are so many
foreclosures these days... most people over the last ten years have
purchased a house strictly on emotion... their eyes were bigger than
their wallets and their vision short sighted, and now they suffer the
consequences, screw em. Th emortgage brokers didn't consider houe
price, they only considered the borrowers ability to repay as loan,
strictly a gamble, they lost because they know zero about real estate,
the average loan officer is a wet behind the ears young snot who
doesn't own their own home either.

> A savvy owner/seller will know their market and understand what changes or
> adjustments to the property should occur for a successful and timely sale.
> If they don't they should consult a professional that does. �

Very few people working in real estate offices know anything about the
subject, most don't own their own home, never have, never will... the
typical RE sales associate is a single mother living from hand to
mouth... there can be a dozen sales reps relying totally on their one
broker to guide their every step, and very, very few RE brokers are
certified RE appraisers... RE appraisers don't sell real estate....
it's like new car sales people, very few actually own an automobile,
even the dealership owner typically doesn't own any automobile, the
bank owns all the cars on the lot and the one they drive is leased,
leased is rented, NOT owned... when tehe people you know seem to be
driving a new high end car every two years be well assured it's a
rental, leased is a rental. Very few people in the front of the auto
dealership know anything about vehicals, for that you need to speak to
service people in the back of the house... no different from a
restaurant. Keep one thing in mind always, if you're making payments
(on anything) you do NOT own it, it owns you! I own everything I
have... I have never paid a penny interest on a credit card my entire
life, I've never had a personal loan for an automoble or anything
else, all paid cash. I've collected scads of rent dollars on
properties the banks financed for me with your money LOL. But now I'm
retired, I don't owe anyone a cent and my cash assets draw far more
interest than I can possibly spend... every month I have money left
over, lots of it... thinking I can't afford granite counters is just
dumb (your assinine remarks simply indicate to me you're just
attempting to transfer your own poverty onto me), I can easily afford
an entire granite quarry.... would probably be a great investment
considering how many people with rocks in their heads have become
enamoured with the tombstone mentality well before their time.
Granite countertops are not so desirous as some seem to think It's a
fad for snobs, snobs always need to indulge themselves in a fad. Be
aware that the plastic laminate manufacturerers are doing very well, a
company like Formica is making more money than all the granite counter
companys put together. If I were to choose a different countertop
material I would choose stainless steel over granite, but than I'd
need to gut my entire kitchen and I like the warmth of all that fine
wood in my kitchen.

> It sounds like you really want some different counters and would like to
> afford granite or some other natural stone. �If that is not the case or you
> are *short* .. take a look at the link you posted. �It is time for a
> change!

If I wanted granite counters the price would be the last consideration
on my list, in fact price would not be a consideration. I don't like
the look of granite, it's austere and depressing, it reminds me of a
cemetary. I don't like stone/brick houses either, they look cold and
uninviting, like death... and stone/brick veneer is worthless, as you
say a "facade"/a sham, it's primarilly the choice of snobbish
pretentious guineas. I like my yellow house, or it would be no biggie
to change the color... my barn is yellow too, I have no intention of
painting it a different color... even my little rental house is
yellow, and its detached garage is yellow, those are staying yellow
too. I much prefer my happy yellow retro, in fact I like that yellow
so much that when I decide to change counters I'll most likely choose
a similar retro yellow again. My last house was different shades of
grey, its roof, its siding, its baths, its kitchen, even its stone
patio, all greys... harsh and dreary like granite... wtf was I
thinking. My kitchen only has 30 sq ft of counter space, regardless
what material I choose it wouldn't cost very much... for me that's
petty cash... I keep that kind of cash in my wallet at all times as
mad money. I own fountain pens where just one is worth more than an
entire granite counter job... and they make granite fountain pens but
I don't want one. If I don't have something it's only because I don't
want it. And anyway, not everything desirous is equated with dollars,
unless you're a snob. Don't pretend you know me, none of yoose do.


SHELDON