On Dec 18, 1:04�pm, Lou Decruss > wrote:
> On Tue, 18 Dec 2007 09:10:08 -0800 (PST), Sheldon >
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> >On Dec 18, 11:25?am, Lou Decruss > wrote:
> >> On Tue, 18 Dec 2007 05:09:56 -0800, Jack Schmidling >
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> >> >We have always dreamed of having a green house. This one isn't exactly a
> >> >dream come true but it was a place to start.
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> >> >I have put together a Greenhouse page for more background, pictures and
> >> >a place to post futures pictures of our activities therein.
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> >> >js
> >> >We decided to invest "a bit more" money into the program and came up
> >> >with this one after much shopping around. The 4 hours estimated assembly
> >> >time turned into more like 4 days due, primarily to the very poor quality of
> >> >hardware supplied with the kit.
> >> >The actual structural parts and glazing are very nice but it's like the kingdom
> >> > that was lost because of a faulty horseshoe nail. For some reason, the
> >> >Chinese just can't get the nuts and bolts right and the crude instructions
> >> >didn't help much either. I definitely would not recommend this model to
> >> >anyone without a gift for improvising.
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> >> Great pictures Jack. ?The whole DIY thing is rather silly. ?I can't
> >> tell you how many kits I've bought and had to get replacement
> >> hardware. ?I bought a New Braunfels smoker years ago and had to drill
> >> all the holes out bigger and use bigger and better nuts and bolts. ?I
> >> had to have a bit of welding done because the wheels would have fallen
> >> off. ?
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> >I've had the same experience with DIY kits, often terrible
> >instructions and poor fasteners... the last one was a simple trash can
> >cart, cost like all of $16, took me about four hours to figure it out
> >and retool to make the parts fit.
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> That's why it was so cheap. �The parts are all chinese made, and the
> hardware is cheap. �Many times I just toss the hardware in the
> recycling bin and use all new. �Mini-blind hardware is the worst.
> Just use real screws for those. �
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> >> Anyway ?I'd love to have your greenhouse.
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> >I wish I could have something so simple but I doubt it would last very
> >long in this climate. �I've been tossing around the idea of a sort of
> >greenhouse for the five years I've been here and finally decided it
> >would make more sense for me to have something like these:
> >http://www.patioenc.com/Products/Conservatories.aspx
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> >http://www.greenhousesetc.com/conservatories.shtml
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> Those are cool. �But do you need an extra room?
I wouldn't call a conservatory an extra room or a need... that's like
calling an inground swimming pool an extra bath tub and deeming it a
necessity. I always wanted a conservatory, a nice way to enjoy my
plants and my outside view... and it sure would be nice to have a
conservatory that contained a swimming pool. okay, a spa. One of my
neighbors had a 3 season room added, it's very nice, probably the
most popular room in the house. But were it me I'd have gone all the
way and for a few dollars more made it an all season room, because in
this clime without heat and insulation you really can't use it from
October thru April... that's half the year that it can't be enjoyed.
I think it would be a nice addition to my office, and I really
wouldn't want the spa, if I did choose a water feature I'd rather a
small koi pool... do I really need these things, no, does anyone. No
one needs to do recreational gardening either.