"Default User" > wrote in message
>>
>> When the solstice was noticed to be the start of a season, December
>> did not exist as we know it today.
>
> So? We're talking about today.
>

But the solar system and the universe is not going to change to suite what
you perceive as a handy calendar. The solstice is a reliable mthod of
marking a date, easty to use to mark as the start of something consistenly.
There is no wishy washy first Tuesday after the first Monday sort of thing.
The seasons are not tied to the calendar as we know it today.



>> The ancients were very attuned to
>> the sky and not the Playboy calendar hanging on the cave wall.
>
> But they didn't run around telling everyone that the solstice was the
> START of winter.

They knew it was the start of something, new season, new year, the days
getting longer. It was something that happened at the same time and was
predictable. They used their powers of observation far more then most of us
do today when it comes to following the seasons.


>
>> The first day of winter may be trivial to you, but it has origins in
>> many societies going back thousands of years. There is good reason
>> to maintain the date for what it is.
>
> You've presented no evidence that the ancients considered that the
> start of winter. Only one (snipped) that had it start of the year.
>
> You're floundering.

Now that is laughable. You evidently don't read well or you'd know how it
became the start of winter. You can put aside the facts in your mind, but
they still exist, no matter how inconvenient for your needs. The solstice
is a mark, the start of a change. No matter what you put on the particular
calendar YOU want to use, the solstice will still come every year. You can
go to 24 months, 18 months, you can make February with 32 days and August
with 15 (eliminate those hot days), but it will not change the solar system.