On Jan 7, 9:33*am, Wilson > wrote:
> sometime in the recent past Nick Cramer posted this:
>
>
>
> > John Doe > wrote:
> >> On Jan 3, 9:47=A0pm, wrote:
> >>> [ . . . ]
> >> Food is meant to be enjoyed, whatever your tastes.
>
> >> If you like Tabasco on your Ikura with a side of coleslaw, and it's
> >> available at the place you're eating, then eat it and enjoy it!
>
> >> This fanaticism about making sure someone else likes what you eat is
> >> crazy.
>
> >> As long as you're polite, do not make other diners unhappy because of
> >> your behavior and you enjoy the food as you like it prepared, go for
> >> it.
>
> > Agreed.
>
> >> If someone else makes a comment about how you like your food, then
> >> tell them to mind their own business and enjoy their food the way they
> >> like it and leave you alone.
>
> > Perhaps thanking them for their interest and then ignoring them would be
> > more polite (see above).

Sorry pal, polite went out the door as soon as someone is rude enough
to talk to me about how I should eat my food. As with your smart ass
comments later, I don't mince words either.

> >> Watching someone else eat their food at another table is considered
> >> rude. If someone does this to you, ignore them and enjoy what you've
> >> paid for.
>
> >> If you don't like mayo on anything, then instruct the chef to NOT put
> >> it on anything he serves you.
>
> > Requesting, rather than instructing, might pay higher dividends.

When I'm paying for it, the chef makes what I like. I'm not
requesting, I'm instructing. Since you seem to be worried more about
what someone thinks of you after you leave, I understand that you're
actually scared to tell the chef how to make your food. Hell, let him
make it the way HE likes it. That way, he won't laugh at you later.

> >> By this advice, I don't mean for you to pull out a jug of kimche and
> >> pour it over your meal. If kimche is offered and you like it on your
> >> rolls, then ask for it to be put into your rolls. It's your meal, not
> >> anyone else's.
>
> >> As for "Traditional" or not....who cares? I eat what I enjoy. I don't
> >> eat what I don't enjoy.
>
> >> Unless you're eating your sushi while standing at a cart in the
> >> street, then you're really NOT being truly "Traditional" if you want
> >> to go back far enough. Let's not be silly folks.
>
> >> I certainly don't mean to insult anyone, but if someone were to tell
> >> someone how to eat their food, then they better be paying for it and
> >> talking to their own children.
>
> >> Yes, there are limits. Polite. Not making a big scene. Common everyday
> >> politeness.
>
> >> I've been eating sushi for 30 years. Don't tell me how to eat my food.
> >> I'll eat it as I like to within reason.
>
> >> I don't care what scale the place is. Unless the chef is paying for my
> >> meal, I'll eat what I feel like eating and he'll make it the way I
> >> tell him to make it or I'll simply go elsewhere.
>
> > I'll tell the Itamae, "Onigaishimas'", 'whatever I want'. Regarding how I
> > want it, I'll say, "Kudasai." I'm aware that I'm an honored guest and
> > there's no need for me to wave my katana to get good service.

What a crock of bull. I'm no guest in a restrurant. I'm a paying
customer. When I speak to a chef in an American resruant, I'll speak
english, not Japanese. Big deal, you know a few words in Japanese. You
think that makes people respect you? Wrong.

> >> In those 30 years, not a single person has ever told me that I was
> >> eating my sushi wrong with the exception of a very impolite waitress
> >> who told me to use chops instead of using my fingers for pieces of a
> >> roll. I told her in short order to mind her own business and go away.
> >> The manager of the place agreed with me.
>
> > Perhaps she was just trying to be helpful. You might have thanked her,
> > continued as you were, and not put her job in jeapordy.

Some waitress comes to my table and tells me that the perfectly
respectful manner in which I eat isn't ok with her? Give me a break.
Maybe she'll actually be better at her new job flipping burgers.

> I'm gonna go out on a limb and take John Doe at face value and
> agree that his waitress was rude and not simply trying to be helpful.

Her "helpful" was rude. I don't care if she was trying to be or not.
She can go practice on someone who isn't paying $50+ bucks for the
meal. I'm not an instructor, I'm a customer.

> Have to ask you, Nick, if you back doesn't hurt bending over
> backwards like that to defend someone you don't know in a
> situation you weren't involved in. Gaijin or nanban, you appear to
> have some of the lingo down, but what are they saying about you
> after you leave the restaurant?

Why should he worry about what someone says about him after he's left?
If they wish to talk badly about a customer and don't have enough
backbone to do so in front of the person they're speaking about, then
to hell with them. Again, they didn't pay for the meal.

> >> Good luck to all of you, but come on, lets not get all weird about
> >> what is ok for a person to eat when they are paying for it and being
> >> polite.
>
> > By your displayed attitude, I would say that you would be seen, not as 'gai
> > jin', but as 'nanban', and would be laughed at after you left.

I couldn't care less what some low life says about me behind my back.
You obviously do. As for the Japanese name calling, I'll keep mine in
English for you; You sound like an asshole. A conceited asshole. Clear
enough for you?

> I would not
> > care to be your companion at a sushiya or anywhere else for that matter.

That's a good thing. I don't hang out with conceited assholes such as
yourself. I can just see the type of people you hang with. Other
snobs. You're not Japanese. You're a phony trying to impress someone.
Here's a clue for you, asshole, you haven't impressed anyone with your
cheap shot bullshit.

> >> (My 2 cents)
>
> > Overvalued!

Not at all. It's an opinion. You think yours is more valued by whom?

>I see we're going to mince words just as finely in '08 as in '07. lol

I don't mince words either. You don't know me. However, after your
little minded rant, I know you. I've met many of you. If it rains,
you'll drown unless you get your nose out of the air.

Another sushi snob that isn't even Japanese. You're a joke.