"Dave Smith" schrieb :
> "Dee.Dee" wrote:
>>
>>
>> Some people love to tip. An expensive trip I took years ago where it said
>> that all tips were paid/taken care of. It was mentioned over-and-over
>> during the trip. But at the end of the trip, everyone whispered-whispered
>> about tipped the guide. They all felt better about themselves giving it to
>> him. Did I give, too? I don't remember. Maybe yes, maybe no. I liked him
>> a lot, he was quite entertaining throughout.
>>
>> Maybe tipping depends on how much the bartender appeals to one, or a guilt
>> factor, or you just like to do it.
>
>
> I had a similar experience when travelling in Europe with my brothers and
> they always wanted to leave at least 15% as a tip and I kept telling them
> that it was already included in the bill.

Then you've told them wrong.
It depends on the country. While tips are already included in the bill in
Switzerland, they aren't included in the other Australia.
They also aren't included in Germany, unless the bill states "tips included"
(Trinkgeld eingeschlossen).

Cheers,

Michael Kuettner