<sf> wrote in message ...
> On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 13:57:06 -0500, "Dee.Dee" >
> wrote:
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>><sf> wrote in message ...
>>> On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 09:26:57 -0500, "Dee.Dee" >
>>> wrote:
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>>>>To me, 1-1/2 teasp for 4 cups isn't necessarily a slow rise; it is a
>>>>standard for pizza dough in a bread machine rise, and if anyone has done
>>>>dough in a bread machine, it pumps-up fast.
>>>
>>> ah. No bread machine here. I tough it out.
>>>
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>>I don't tough it out; I've got tools up the whazoo to help me out.
>>I never was strong enough to knead bread even in my 'younger' years.
>>
>>Happy kneading :-))
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> <snork> I don't knead either. That's what a food processor is for.
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>

I used to use my food processor to knead bread, but since I got a big KA
mixer, I now use that. AFAICT the bread comes out the same, but it seems to
me that the KA is easier to clean -- fewer parts to go in dishwasher and
they can go on either dw shelf.

I don't have a bread machine and don't particularly want one. I've got too
much one-use kitchen stuff already -- I don't want to give up what has
become precious counter and storage space for another large item.

Anny