On Jan 24, 11:50 am, fasteddy999 > wrote:
> On Jan 22, 7:44 pm, Elston Gunn > wrote:
>
> > > I'm surious - where are you, what varieties are you considering
> > > planting, and how many vines do you think you have room for?
>
> > I am in Zone 5.
>
> > I was thinking frontenac grapes.
>
> > I think I can plant 10 or so vines.
>
> > Thanks.
>
> If you are serious about Frontenac grapes I suggest you read this.http://www.greatrivervineyard.com/Frontenac.htm
> I have another grape to suggest that makes a deep complex red, Norton.
> Nortons are also cold hardy.I live in northern Missouri and have
> wonderful success with them. They are very vigorous and are black rot
> resistant. I have never sprayed my grapes at all and enjoy bountiful
> harvests. Nortons are so popular that they are hard to get. If you
> think you might want to try them, get online and order some now. The
> plants are so vigoruos that I suggest planting them at a little wider
> spacing than you would other varieties. My grapes were in full
> production by their third year. All you need to do is stand back and
> water them.


Norton can make good wine, but it is more difficult due to pH
typically being too high when the TA gets low enough. Marechal Foch
and Leon Millot are French Hybrids that are planted in the mid-west.
There are also two new releases from Cornell that might be worth
checking on - Noiret and Corot Noir.