enigma wrote:

> Blinky the Shark > wrote in
> news >
>> Hey, it this a new thing in signage, or have I just not noticed it?
>>
>> A stop sign with a subsign that says cars on the cross street don't
>> stop.
>>
>> http://blinkynet.net/stuff/stop.jpg
>
> i've never seen one of those. where do you live?

North Hollywood, California, USA

>> Uh......for what, maybe 80 years now, hasn't STOP meant "STOP", not
>> "STOP LIKE ALL OTHER DIRECTIONS ARE DOING"? The other street not
>> stopping is the default, innit? Unless, of course a sign *states*
>> "4-WAY" (but of course then it's not a default situation).
>
> is it possible that the intersection was formerly a 4 way
> stop, but changed recently to improve traffic flow?

Not that I *recall*, but I can't say for sure.

>> Are we devolving into generations that think a stop sign always means
>> *everybody* stops -- along with not being able to park without radar
>> and not being able to shift a manual transmission?
>
> i think it's more a generation that thinks everybody stops except
> themselves, that passing on double yellow is fine if you're in a hurry &
> the car in front is only going the speed limit, and most traffic rules
> are just "suggestions".

> what cars have parking radar? i've missed that. i have a

I can't name them, but it's not rare. It may actually be ultrasonic, but
I've at least seen it *called* radar. Or both types of sensing may be
used.

<clickety>

Just the first page of a Google search on phrase (IOW, with the quotes)
"parking assist" shows hits for Honda, Toyota, Mini, Lexus and Infiniti.
And yes, they seem to be ultrasound, even though the huddled masses seem
to frequently call them "radar". Having done this tiny amount of research
I shall start calling them "ultrasound" myself, since that seems to be the
norm.


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