Pop Tart wrote:
> On Mon, 03 Mar 2008 17:35:15 -0800, Evenbit wrote:
>
>> On Mar 3, 2:04 pm, santosh > wrote:
>>> What is needed is individual enlightenment (and I don't mean that word
>>> in the spiritual sense). People need to educate themselves and, more
>>> importantly, make their own choices. I believe that given a good
>>> upbringing nearly everyone would make most of the right and sensible
>>> choices.
>>>
>>> It's rather a chicken-and-egg situation. For society to change,
>>> individual need to change. But then most individual changes are
>>> themselves heavily influenced by the state of the society, directly or
>>> indirectly.
>>>
>>>
>> Things have changed so much that mankind finds him/herself no longer "in
>> touch" with his/her environment and understands little about the
>> necessary steps to co-exist with this new environment.
>>
>> In the past, we had a largely agrarian society and multi-generational
>> living... where children learned by working alongside their parents &
>> grandparents. Knowledge easily passed from one generation to the next.
>> Now, nearly ALL work is done away from the home... it is hidden from
>> sight locked away in factories ( where most of it is being replaced by
>> machinery and automation ) and offices. Children are sent away to
>> schools and the elderly are sent to 'care' facilities.
>
>
>> I think that technology (and how we have chosen to make use of it) has
>> gone a long way toward changing the very nature of society .... and has
>> definitely changed what it means to be human.
>
> true. your assessment is interesting. I've pondered along the same
> lines.
>
> I tend to think this is more of 'how we have chosen to make use of it',
> though.
>
> I think our 'spiral-downward' started with the WW2 generation in my
> country (USA). They endured the Great Depression and were the 'great'
> generation that bravely accepted the call to help defend Europe, then
> they came home and spoiled their children. Perhaps they didn't want
> their children to know the hardships they had known. The children had no
> basis of strong work ethic or morality, then they became the "counter-
> culture" hippies, and then they evolved to the "me-generation" ie, "I
> have to do what's best for me!" This means "divorce" when things get a
> little tough at home; it means "send mom and dad to adult daycare so I
> don't have to mess with them"; it means "it takes both parents to work
> these days - especially when we have a 5000 sq. ft. house with a 3 car
> garage, a lexus, an infiniti, a harley, and a boat, and nice wardrobes,
> and a bunch of other things - so who in their right mind has time to take
> care of the children! Isn't that why we have TV?", etc ad infinitum.
>
> To bring the off-topic theme of God back here - we have a new god whom we
> serve: ourselves. There is a new trinity - the unholy trinity: Me,
> Myself, and I.
>
> Of course, there are many other dynamics that coincide. As communities
> become larger, people become anonymous. The more anonymity, the more
> cruel we are with one another. Look at the Internet newsgroups! People
> rarely speak to one another the way they communicate so often on the net
> with flaming. Perhaps because it is easier to fear repercussion when we
> know one another, or when we can identify one another.
>
> So what's this thread about anyway? I never did find out the price of
> eggs in China
>
I'd suggest this to be OT for alasm; also for afc and afv.

Yup, I'm doing a bit of trolling! But I feel it's a concern to all my
correspondents.

mesaage so x-posted.