"Derek" > wrote
>
> "Bill" > wrote
> >
> > Which "vegans" here on usenet have done *anything*
> > concrete to stop killing them? None.
> >
> Which vegans here on Usenet have done *anything*
> concrete to start killing them? None.
>
> The farmer kills them, so he alone is fully responsible
> for every last one of them.

The "farmer" is the person who owns the land, he seldom does the killing.
With larger operations it's usually an employee that does it. I'm a farmer
and I only see my land a week a year at most.