"Rubystars" > wrote in message
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> (piddock) wrote in message
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> > "rick etter" > wrote in message news:<clWpb.1601
> > > ROTFLMAO What a hoot!
> >
> > ROTFLMAO!! What a ****ing liar, you are!
> > I can hardly wait until you get your first heart attack.
> > I will jump for joy when you suffer and drop dead!
>
> That's not very compassionate. What's the point in having a respect
> for life (all life) if you tell someone that you wish they would drop
> dead from a heart attack?
>
> I may get flamed for saying this, but isn't a human life of more value
> than a cow's? It is in my opinion. Why would you be happy if Rick died
> but sad when a cow died?
>
> I've been reading/posting to this group on and off and I know Rick
> posts things that make people angry and seems to stir people up, but
> you shouldn't let him get under your skin. He just has a different
> opinion than other people here, even if he is deliberately trying to
> get reactions.
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Nope. Deliberatly trying to expose vegan ignorance and delusions.
>
> He's correct that animals die from all kinds of food production. Even
> when I went to go pick wild dewberries with my dad in the field, we
> had to wash all the caterpillars and other bugs off of them when we
> got home. A few berries were discarded because I saw caterpillars
> crawl out of them. I may have even eaten some of them without knowing
> it, though I think most of the berries were clean (I broke many of
> them in half to make sure *L*).
>
> A lot of the produce we buy at the store is also contaminated with
> insects that we may unknowingly eat. And yeah, sometimes rats and mice
> get chopped up during harvesting and processing of grains.
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Millions and milllions. Plus the ones that are poisoned. Plus the ones
that die for energy production in the petro-chemical industry that supports
your veggies lifestyle.
>
> I don't think it's as big of a deal as Rick makes it out to be (I
> mean, we are talking pests, mostly, and compassionate to animals or
> not, pests need to be dealt with or they will ruin our food and spread
> disease).
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The 'pests' I'm talking about are mammals, birds, reptiles, fish, and
amphibians. Why are small mammals of less imporatance to vegans than cows,
pigs, chickens? Now, if you want to add bugs to the list of animals that
die for food, bring it on. You'll lose that numbers game for sure, hands
down.
Personally I feel that vegetable production is at least less
> directly harmful to animals, not that it doesn't directly harm them,
> but that the intent isn't to harm animals (just a thought).
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Doesn't directly harm them? Are you kidding? tell that to the massive
numbers of animals that are deliberatly poisoned just to keep your veggies
clean, cheap, and convenient.
Also we
> all need to eat plants to live and we don't all need to eat meat to
> live.
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Yes, you do. Meat has nutrients that you cannot get from veggies, despite
the delusional claims of others.
So, many vegans take supplements. Where do these come from, manna from
heaven? Their production is just another part of the death machine for
vegans.
So it's not like we can stop supporting the vegetable farmers
> altogether, and they do an important job, not only feeding us but also
> people in third world countries.
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We're not talking about feeding the world, just the hypocritical vegan
loons. They make the claims that they care. They are the ones that *could*
stop supporting farmers, but like you, most are too lazy and too consumer
oriented to make the changes needed to actually live up to your stated
goals.
>
> Also a lot of food is grown for animal feed and I'm sure that a
> certain amount of insects/rats/mice get killed in that process so I
> don't see how choosing to eat meat reduces cruelty, especially when
> the direct source of the food is an animal's death. Even "organic" or
> "free range" meat producers need suitable fields for grazing.
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And grazing kills what other animals? I suppose you crop fields are just
there by magic?
>
> It is wrong however to say that your lifestyle is free from animal
> use/exploitation. We all rely on animals to one degree or another.
> Vegans IMO probably harm animals the least, despite Ritter's points
> having some truth to them.
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A claim that vegans have neverbeen able to back up with any kind of proof.
I can, however show you where millions and millions of animals die in
particular phases of crop agriculture.
snippage...
>
> > Throwing you in prison for the rest of your life,
> > or leaving you to die if you get a heart attack or stroke,
> > is the ONLY way to get your type to get this point through your
> > heads.
>
> That makes you sound like a fanatic. Vegans and even vegetarians have
> a bad reputation for being fanatical, for hating humans and loving
> animals more than humans. Wouldn't it be much better to ignore him, or
> to be kind to him, rather than to seem so vicious?
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He can't. His hatred is all he has. He knows his 'ethics' are a sham. so
he has to hate those that remind him of that fact.
>
> -Rubystars