Boron Elgar > wrote
> Rod Speed > wrote
>> Boron Elgar > wrote
>>> Rod Speed > wrote
>>>> SMS > wrote
>>>>> Jonathan Kamens wrote
>>>>>> Sqwertz > writes

>>>>>>> Obtaining payment from another by threat of harm is certainly extortion.

>>>>>> Obtaining payment from another for a service rendered is not
>>>>>> extortion. Companies that do not wish to have their products
>>>>>> certified kosher do not need to avail themselves of the service
>>>>>> offered by the certification agencies and thus do not need to pay
>>>>>> for it. Ther eis no "threat."

>>>>>> Products that are not certified kosher are not purchased by Jews who
>>>>>> care about such things. This is not a "boycott," it is capitalism in action.

>>>>> But the real reason for the huge increase in the number of
>>>>> certified kosher products is because products that are not
>>>>> certified kosher are also not purchased by non-Jews that care
>>>>> about such things.

>>>> Easy to claim, hell of a lot harder to substantiate that claim.

>>> http://health.usnews.com/articles/he...ood-safer.html

>> Doesnt do a damned thing to substantiate that claim.

> Actually it does,

No it doesnt.

> and does so with numbers.

Not with any relevant numbers. In spades with the next claim he made.

>> In spades with his other even sillier claim that the vast bulk
>> of deliberate purchases of kosher food is by non jews.

> Let's see you refute it with a citation of your own...

HE made that claim.

HE gets to substantiate that claim.

THATS how it works.

> Since all you are providing is BS

Easy to claim, hell of a lot harder to substantiate that claim.

> to counter the citation I provide,

Which doesnt even substantiate the claim HE made.

> I say, put up or shut up.

And I say

HE made that claim.

HE gets to substantiate that claim.

THATS how it works.

> I'll keep looking for you to provide some hard facts to prove
> your point or disprove what the page above indicates - that
> non-Jews will purchase kosher certified foods because they

That wasnt even the claim he made, so your cite is completely irrelevant to the claims he made.

>>> Is Kosher Food Safer?
>>> By Deborah Kotz
>>> Posted January 11, 2008
>>
>>> "Not only Jews look for the kosher symbol on food these days.
>>> In a surprising turn of events, "kosher" has become the most
>>> popular claim on new food products, trouncing "organic" and
>>> "no additives or preservatives," according to a recent report.

>> Different matter entirely to the claim he made.

> Well, no, chub scratcher, it isn't.

Corse it is, arsehole.

> As I said, disprove it or refute it with an outside source, or STFU,

HE made that claim.

HE gets to substantiate that claim.

THATS how it works.