Sqwertz wrote:
> SMS <SMS >> wrote:
>
>> I guess what he thinks is that the reason that the kosher products sell
>> better is unrelated to the fact that even many non-Jews prefer to buy
>> kosher products when available.
>
> Name one Kosher product that sells better than an equivalent
> non-kosher product. Concord grape wine doesn't count.

Campbell's Vegetarian vegetable soup. Of course your premise is
incredibly stupid to begin with. As soon as a manufacturer realizes that
his kosher competition is selling better he runs out and gets certified.

Actually you could compare almost any of the canned foods coming in from
Mexico and China versus similar canned food products in the U.S., but
this would be as dishonest as what you're doing. The Mexican generics
sell for much less, and sell in lower volumes, but it's not because of
certification (though if consumers had the assurance of the
certification they'd likely be more willing to risk buying these
products). They only sell at all because they're cheap.

>
>> That is correct. Of course the other chicken growers are free to add
>> more salt to their product, but it probably wouldn't help the taste much
>> since the mass produced chickens taste so bad to begin with.
>
> I guess this is why Empire Kosher is outselling Foster Farms and
> Butterball, right?

Meat products are very different than other kosher products. Kosher meat
products are usually much more expensive because of the extra production
costs. However if you want to compare sales growth rates, Empire is
probably growing faster because of both increased demand for kosher meat
products and because of the high rating they get in taste tests.

Look at a product that was not certified then became certified, i.e.
Campbell's Vegetarian Vegetable soup. They made no changes to the
ingredients, they simply made changes to the production process, i.e.
not using machinery also used for non-kosher products. They did this for
one reason: to sell more units in order to make more money.

> Are you two out of straw men yet?

Since you're the one claiming that kosher products don't sell more
because of the certification, it's up to you to provide a citation or
reference that contradicts all the ones that have already been posted.
Obviously you can't do this, or you would have done so already.

You've created a straw man, by trying to compare the sale of totally
different products, one kosher one non-kosher, selling at wildly
different prices, rather than address the actual reason that a
manufacturer decides to certify their product, which is to increase
sales of a specific SKU.

Now if you found two versions of the same product that were exactly the
same in both ingredients and marketing, other than one version being
kosher and one not being kosher, you might be able to make a valid
comparison. Since the cost of certification is in the thousands of a
cent per unit sold, there would likely be no difference in price,
certainly not more than 1 cent.