> Her statement was fair. Dairy can be a beneficial part of one's diet, and
so can
> eggs.

Please support this claim with evidence. Animal products contain cholesterol
which is bad for humans as we are metabolic herbivores. Animal products are
also inherently allergenic, even in tiny amounts because they are "foreign"
proteins.

> veg-ns can have is that their diet is automatically "better" in
nutritional
> value (much less the ****ed up ethical notions they perpetrate) than
another.

true

> in our culture, is an historical novelty. Our bodies, though, carry the
wisdom
> of natural selection. Our ancestors ate meat and dairy and eggs; they
didn't
> suffer iron, zinc, or B12 deficiencies at the rates found in vegans.

Maybe true, but they did suffer from atherosclerosis and arthritis, and
rarely live beyond 60. Nutrition is much more to do with how plant foods are
cultivated, and since food is cultivated for profit and not nutritional
value, it's no surprise that supermarket food is pretty wacked
nutritionally.

> The only reliable unfortified sources of vitamin B12 are meat, dairy
> products and eggs.

Actually dairy only scores really well as it is relatively uncooked. In the
Framingham Heart study, meat eating was not such a good indicator of B12
levels than milk intake. However, the only really safe way to get a really
good B12 score is to take the supplement.

> And iron and zinc.

Actually there is no evidence that eating any of the vast array of recent
culturally inspired diets, vegan or whatever, is healthy at all. Rather
there is just a lot of unsupported rhetoric, but no credible logic or facts.

John