Here are "usual suspect's" quotes that Jonathan desperately
wants the reader to forget about (below).

[start Mmhsb]
> natural predators & a natural life is cruel?
[usual suspect]
Yes. Watch the Discovery Channel sometime.
usual suspect http://tinyurl.com/2c9ac

and

"Ever seen what happens to various ruminants as they're
stalked and hunted by large cats? Slaughterhouses may
be messy, but they're not cruel."
Usual Suspect http://tinyurl.com/yu6eq

and

"Suffering results for all animals whether they're
eaten by humans or other animals. Indeed, many
other predators are less humane than humans."
usual suspect http://tinyurl.com/2ba7f

It's clear from those quotes that "usual suspect" believes
natural predation is cruel while human predation isn't, but
both he and Jonathan Ball are doing their level best between
themselves to stop the readers on these animal related
groups getting to read them.

They have lied, edited my posts, changed the newsgroup
titles to make replying to them awkward, and just about
anything they can think of. What a pair of liars, eh?