On Fri, 21 May 2004 18:02:15 +0100, "ipse dixit" > wrote:

>
>"usual suspect" > wrote in message ...
>> farrell77 wrote:
>> <...>
>> >>>>It's clear from those quotes that "usual suspect" believes
>> >>>>natural predation is cruel while human predation isn't,
>> >>
>> >>Bullshit, you shit-stirring punk.
>> >
>> > Nope that's clearly what you said, "christian".
>>
>> That is NOT what I said.
>
> [start Mmhsb]
> > natural predators & a natural life is cruel?
> [usual suspect]
> Yes. Watch the Discovery Channel sometime.
> usual suspect http://tinyurl.com/2c9ac
>
>and
>
> "Ever seen what happens to various ruminants as they're
> stalked and hunted by large cats? Slaughterhouses may
> be messy, but they're not cruel."
> usual suspect http://tinyurl.com/yu6eq
>
>and
>
>"Suffering results for all animals whether they're
>eaten by humans or other animals. Indeed, many
>other predators are less humane than humans."
>usual suspect http://tinyurl.com/2ba7f
>
>It's clearly what you said, christian.

Nonhuman predators can NOT be humane. It's
absurd to think that they can be, since they would
have to deliberately try to be, and they can't even
conceive of the idea. Only humans can be humane.

He didn't say that animals killed by nonhuman
predators *always* suffer more than those slaughtered
by humans. Sometimes they do and sometimes they
don't. It really creates a strong feeling of disgust
when it's made so clear that you people who *pretend!!!*
to care about animals are unaware of facts like that.
And it creates an even stronger feeling of disgust when
you prove without any doubt that you don't even care
about facts like that!!! You very obviously care less
about animals than he does, than Etter does, and than
I do. You may be about on the same level as the Gonad
however.