On Fri, 21 May 2004 18:43:00 -0700, "Dutch" > wrote:
>"ipse dixit" > wrote
>> On Fri, 21 May 2004 23:36:17 GMT, wrote:
>
>> >>"Suffering results for all animals whether they're
>> >>eaten by humans or other animals. Indeed, many
>> >>other predators are less humane than humans."
>> >>usual suspect http://tinyurl.com/2ba7f
>> >>
>> >>It's clearly what you said, christian.
>> >
>> > Nonhuman predators can NOT be humane.
>
>No they can't, but their actions frequently result in unmitigated pain and
>suffering, and that is one definition of "cruel".

You and "usual suspect" might think that nature and
natural predation is cruel, but normal-thinking people
don't, I'm glad to say.

>> According to "usual suspect" it's *cruel*, and that's
>> the issue being raised here.
>
>You aren't "raising an issue"

"usual suspect" is on record as agreeing with the
proposition that nature and natural predation is cruel,
yet he tries to insist he's never agreed to any such
thing at all. I've provided his quotes to show that he
does believe nature and natural predation is cruel

[start Mmhsb]
> natural predators & a natural life is cruel?
[usual suspect]
Yes. Watch the Discovery Channel sometime.
usual suspect http://tinyurl.com/2c9ac

So yes, I am raising an issue that "usual suspect"
1) believes nature and natural predation to be cruel
2) lies and snips away the evidence pointing to (1)

Another issue I'm raising in this thread is that "usual
suspect" unethically alters his opponent's sentences
before replying to them AND then lies by claiming
he doesn't. He invariably snips away all the evidence
in the link I keep providing showing he does, so once
again he is a proven liar.

<unsnip>
You did, and here's the proof that you did
http://tinyurl.com/2ox8r Just follow that
short thread from the beginning and you'll
see that you edited my posts before making
your replies to them. Once again, it's proven
beyond all doubt that you're lying.
<endsnip>

Now I've finished proving he lied etc., let's look at
the evidence showing your more recent lies now,
shall we? You've been claiming all these years that
you live in Canada, yet evidence from
http://www.ip2location.com/IP-COUNTRY.HTM
shows you live in Kirkland, Washington.

24.113.90.217 US UNITED STATES WASHINGTON KIRKLAND

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Why have you been lying, Dutch?