On Sat, 22 May 2004 00:46:13 +0100, ipse dixit > wrote:

>On Fri, 21 May 2004 23:36:17 GMT, wrote:
>>On Fri, 21 May 2004 18:02:15 +0100, "ipse dixit" > wrote:
>>>"usual suspect" > wrote in message ...
>>>> farrell77 wrote:
>>>> <...>
>>>> >>>>It's clear from those quotes that "usual suspect" believes
>>>> >>>>natural predation is cruel while human predation isn't,
>>>> >>
>>>> >>Bullshit, you shit-stirring punk.
>>>> >
>>>> > Nope that's clearly what you said, "christian".
>>>>
>>>> That is NOT what I said.
>>>
>>> [start Mmhsb]
>>> > natural predators & a natural life is cruel?
>>> [usual suspect]
>>> Yes. Watch the Discovery Channel sometime.
>>> usual suspect http://tinyurl.com/2c9ac
>>>
>>>and
>>>
>>> "Ever seen what happens to various ruminants as they're
>>> stalked and hunted by large cats? Slaughterhouses may
>>> be messy, but they're not cruel."
>>> usual suspect http://tinyurl.com/yu6eq
>>>
>>>and
>>>
>>>"Suffering results for all animals whether they're
>>>eaten by humans or other animals. Indeed, many
>>>other predators are less humane than humans."
>>>usual suspect http://tinyurl.com/2ba7f
>>>
>>>It's clearly what you said, christian.
>>
>> Nonhuman predators can NOT be humane.
>
>According to "usual suspect" it's *cruel*,

It often is:
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Main Entry: cru·el
Pronunciation: 'krü(-&) l
Function: adjective
Inflected Form(s): cru·el·er or cru·el·ler; cru·el·est or cru·el·lest
Etymology: Middle English, from Old French, from Latin crudelis, from crudus
1 : disposed to inflict pain or suffering : devoid of humane feelings
2 a : causing or conducive to injury, grief, or pain

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>and that's
>the issue being raised here.
>
>[..]

There are other issues being raised here. One is the fact that
he cares more about animals than you do. Another is the fact
that nonhuman predators are not humane.