On Aug 13, 7:07 pm, "Nunya Bidnits" > wrote:

> > And Bolner's/Fiesta herb processing and
> > manufacturing is about 7 miles or so as the crow flies from my house.
> > I have no excuse not to use fresh.

> Yeah yeah.... you've gloated over that more than once! Don't be surprised
> when I show up at your door someday!

LMAO! True, but for a guy like me, it never gets old. I took it for
granted for years, and their setup was a just a quiet 15,000 or so sq
ft warehouse that served out immediate area for years and years.

You couldn't get Bolner's/Fiesta outside a twenty mile radius of San
Antonio in the late 60s, early 70's.

Then will all the interest in cooking, their business has grown and
grown until they are huge and ship some of their products all over the
world. Still in the same place though, just with really new machines
and running two shifts.

The point being that when I was younger I thought everyone had one of
these in their town and I never gave it a thought. I was surprised to
find it wasn't so.

The same with meats. With San Antonio at a huge crossroads to the
cattle industry, our stockyards and processing for beef was huge. Not
much chicken, not much pork, 90% BEEF. Armour (sp?), Swift, Hormel,
Wilson, and many others had processing plants here.

I can still drive down to Capitol packing an buy bulk/wholesale burger
patties, dogs, polish sausages, etc. I just have to be ready for the
25 pound boxes they come in!

Kiolbassa still has a large plant here for their sausages, and in fact
the Kiolbassa family claims they started Kiolbassa sausages here in
San Antonio. A great of the Kiolbassas live here, and the company
sponsors a lot of picnics for churches, youth groups, etc.

My first long term construction boss in the early 70s was friends with
the family, and one of the benefits of working for him was that at
Christmas he would get us all huge bone-in picnic cut shanks, right
off the Kiolbassa processing line.

> > the
> > herbs grow like hell and produce a lot of usable foliage. They love
> > the clear warm days and the cool nights.

> LOL.... I knew there was a reason I asked!

Hey... great minds think alike!

> Can you plant them where they only get morning sun in the summer, or use
> some of that row cover material to give partial shade?

I dunno. I have tried everything. When they are in the house they
seem to get stunted. When they are outside, it is less than 50/50.
And if they grow, they don't last. I may have thrown in the towel on
that one.

> Garlic chives.... they replicate here like weeds!

How nice would that be!

I went out to California to visit some friends many years ago, and
they lived in Bakersfield in a smaller retirement area of old houses.
Almost everyone out there grew something; they traded each things like
Meyer lemons for avocados, peaches for walnuts, tomatoes for specialty
greens... there was no end to it. Those old folks had it down solid.
Sadly, with old folk's constitution, NO peppers.

But I saw chives that were about 4" short of my knee. I thought it
was an ornamental grass! When I asked the lady about it, she told me
I could pull them up for all she cared (she had it ringing her patio)
as no matter what she tried she couldn't eat it all, and couldn't kill
it.

What a problem to have, right?

Robert