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Default Corned Beef & Cabbage


"jmcquown" > wrote in message
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> Paul M. Cook > wrote:
>> "Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
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>> > On Tue 19 Aug 2008 05:06:39a, Paul M. Cook told us...
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>> > > "jmcquown" > wrote in message
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>> > > > Paul M. Cook > wrote:
>> > > > > "jmcquown" > wrote in message
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>> > > > > > Didn't get around to making it on Sunday so it was dinner
>> > > > > > Monday 8/18. And yes! Mom ate two small slices of corned
>> > > > > > beef and a rather large helping of cabbage YAY! Couldn't
>> > > > > > get over the price ($2.59/lb). It's cheaper than
>> > > > > > chuck roast! And it was nice and lean. I do find all the
>> > > > > > peppercorns and chopped bay leaf in the "spice packet"
>> > > > > > annoying. I put it in a double layer of cheesecloth tied
>> > > > > > with kitchen twine.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > A bouquet garni? For corned beef? You don't eat the stock
>> > > > > so what is the point?
>> > > >
>> > > > You must like munching on chopped pieces of bay leaf and
>> > > > peppercorns that get stuck in the cabbage (which was cooked in
>> > > > the "stock".)
>> > >
>> > > Never happened, getting stuck in my teeth that is. And I make
>> > > this dish a lot - 10 times a year easy. You don't boil the stuff
>> > > for one, you poach it basically with the veggies. And what is
>> > > wrong with cooked peppercorns? They are delightful, a real
>> > > addition to the dish. I love taking a bite out of the cabbage and
>> > > having a peppercorn with it. It is just the best. And just like
>> > > the po foak of Ireland undoubtedly ate it. Are you aware peppercorns
>> > > were once so prized you could get hung
>> > > if caught smuggling them? They didn't have pepper mills or
>> > > cheese cloth back then.
>> > >
>> > > Paul
>> >
>> > "Back then", perhaps not, but we certainly have pepper mills, cheese
>> > cloth,
>> > and spice balls today. Does it matter in the least that some
>> > people might not like munching on the sharp edges of bay leaf or
>> > hard peppercorns after they've already contributed their flavor to
>> > the dish? I, for one, do not. It's particularly difficult for many
>> > who wear dentures and these bits get underneath the denture and can
>> > be painful.

>>
>> Cooked peppercorns are as soft as butter. And bay leaves unless
>> fallen apart are intact and being 3 inches long pretty easy to avoid.

>
> Once again you don't read for comprehension. The bay leaves in the "spice
> packet" (and I use that term loosely) are chopped. They can't be avoided.
> They're chopped. HELLO!
>
>> Plus I am cursed with a delicate colon and trust me I know how things
>> like peppercorns affect it. I eat them, and I love them, but boy
>> howdy do I pay the price. If you do not have a sensitive colon you
>> cannot know how it affects you, your taste buds and your sense of
>> smell. They are all interconnected. And the elderly have serious
>> problems in this area. The dying even worse.

> You're contradicting yourself all over the place. Why do you think I
> didn't want to eat whole peppercorns?! I wanted the taste from the
> pepper, of course. And if you think those tiny chopped pieces of bay leaf
> do your colon any good... surprise!!!!
>
>> > People have preferences and there is no reason to criticize someone
>> > else's preference over yours.

>>
>> Next thing we'll be arguing the best way to cook possum.
>>

> I happen to have a good recipe for BBQ possum. I prefer rabbit though.
> And it doesn't call for peppercorns or bay leaves.
>


I'd ask mom if she would like it and if she said yes, I'd be on the phone to
Elmer Fudd.

Paul