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Wim van Bemmel

On Tue, 10 Feb 2009 19:08:00 -0500, T wrote:

> In article >,
> lid says...
>>
>> On Mon, 09 Feb 2009 21:09:33 +0000, Michael \"Dog3\" wrote:
>>
>> > Wim van Bemmel >
>>
>> >> My daughter is ***,
>> >> and married to a wonderful girl that is physical mother of 2 of my
>> >> grandchildren. In fact, they both are. Here in The Netherlands this
>> >> is normal, and widely accepted. Only some religious fundamentalists
>> >> oppose. They lost. But, they should stop ****ing. To prevent them
>> >> from becoming a majority.
>> >
>> > I'm glad the fundies lost. They're still winning here but I suspect
>> > they will be winning for only a little while longer. There is a
>> > huge movement to begin taxing religious organizations that involve
>> > themselves in political issues. This is not a new idea in the US but
>> > it is gaining momentum after the Prop 8 fiasco in November. I support
>> > this effort but don't see anything coming of it in my lifetime.
>> >
>> > Michael
>>
>> I did not comprehend all you wrote, it is part of US politics, but I
>> understand that you are on our side. We are a bit ahead here. We take
>> literally that no discrimination of sex and race shall be allowed. And
>> practice that, too. At least in matters of sexual addition. I do not
>> know of anyone *** being harmed in his or her career by being so. Of
>> course there are jokes, but no discrimination. I am speaking for the
>> common sense people, not the fundies, or the right wing diehards.
>> Follow us, it makes life a lot easier for many of us. And ban
>> fundamentalism.
>
> Face it, even our currency says "In God We Trust". It's going to take a
> long time for us to throw off the yoke of religious intolerance.
>
> Europe has had several hundred years more than we have to do that.
>
> And need I remind you that the initial settlers of the U.S. were
> essentially religious fundamentalists.
>
> Puritans, Calvinists, et al. All people the Church of England couldn't
> tolerate.

Yes, I know. I know also that your settlers were expelled from Europe
because of their fundamentalism. Or, expelled themselves. The Founding
Fathers are not unknown in Holland.

There seems to be something fundamentally wrong with religions.

The nazi SS troops wore on their uniform: "Gott mit uns". "God with us".
It is the same phrase I hear from your USA presidents. Without which they
would not have been elected. So, fundamentalism is one of the mainstays of
USA society. Why fighting the muslims? Just because they sit on the oil
supply ??

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Groet, salut, Wim.