On Tue, 24 Feb 2009 02:44:59 -0700, SteveB wrote:

>>>>>> But they AREN'T demons, Lou. They're dirt poor people who were born
>>>>>> in a country that gives them no opportunity and no hope. Our
>>>>>> ancestors
>>>>>> were lucky enough to have gotten here at an earlier time, some
>>>>>> legally,
>>>>>> some illegally, when things were less complicated and society more
>>>>>> forgiving.
>
> Don't you DARE ****ing include my ancestors with this group! My grandfather
> and grandmother came here a year apart from Poland in 1913 and 1914. They
> had the clothes on their backs, the money in their pockets, and one small
> suitcase each. They found work. They met and married. They started
> learning English, and started studying for citizenship. They were made
> citizens BEFORE having their first child. They had five. They forbade
> their children from speaking Polish in the house, although the kids would do
> it on the sly, and paying the price of corporal punishment if caught. Every
> one of the boys served in WW2. The two women married and had great
> children. They were legal US citizens, and just people who observed the
> law. So don't give me that happy liberal horseshit line. My ancestors were
> two classes and a huge step ahead of this human garbage that is rotting out
> system and services from within, learning to leech on the system and being
> proud of it. Either that, or too lazy to work, and getting money from
> illegal activities.
>
> Asshole.
>
> Steve

yeah, and my ancestors were white!

blake