On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 19:16:12 -0700, Gunner Asch
> wrote:

>On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 17:26:38 -0700, sf > wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 17:36:07 -0500, Fat Moe >
>>wrote:
>>
>>>I'd suggest we need to check
>>>out our value systems and think about what we think is important and
>>>what is not.
>>
>>OK, let's take notes on our needs and who supplies them. Let's start
>>with shoes. We *need* shoes. Where's our shoe industry? Gone to
>>China.
>
>Only for cheap low end shoes, and shoes of "art". One can still get US
>made boots and shoes that will last a decade.

But there is NO US Shoe Industry left. Only a limited amount of high
end specialty shoes are made here in the US. End of story, you lose.
>
>
>> We need steel for building skyscrapers and cars, Where is
>>that? Gone to China.
>
>Some does indeed. However.....There are lots and lots of US made
>steel readily available at junk yards, salvage yards and so forth.
>Much of it never having been touched before.

Again, you lose. The real steel industry is gone for good.
>
>> Who mills American grown lumber grown on the
>>West Coast and sold in the US? China. It's less expensive to ship
>>our logs over there and ship the milled lumber back here to sell in
>>the US.
>
>True indeed.
>
>However..one can set up ones own mill in ones back yard or rented
>property and turn out just as much as you wish.

Once again, it's a specialty industry... mass production is gone, you
lose.

Three times, you're out.


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