sf wrote:
> On Sat, 16 May 2009 16:27:20 -0400, "Matthew L. Martin"
> > wrote:
>
>> Rod Speed wrote:
>>> sf wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 16 May 2009 00:08:02 -0500, Dave Garland
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> brooklyn1 wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> It's really pretty dopey to refrain from
>>>>>> occasionally/appropriately using the heated dry feature of a
>>>>>> dishwasher by claiming that wastes energy, but then regularly
>>>>>> light off a big indoor oven, typically on the hottest summer
>>>>>> days, and then just to bake a silly tube of biscuits or a couple
>>>>>> spuds.
>>>>> True. That's what toaster ovens are for.
>>>>>
>>>> Those things make a room hotter than a regular (self cleaning) oven
>>>> with the door closed will.
>>>
>>> Nope, because what you call a regular oven puts all its heat into
>>> the room too.
>>
>> Only if the BTU input to each oven is the same. A well insulated,
>> self cleaning oven uses less electricity to do the same amount of
>> cooking than a poorly insulated oven, all other things being equal.
>> This is the same principle as a well insulated house using less fuel
>> than a poorly insulated house.

> I'm saying a toaster oven is poorly insulated and
> manages to heat the room as well as what's inside.

All ovens do that, regardless of how well insulated they are.

The only ovens that dont do that are those that are vented directly to outside.

> I see no useful purpose in using one.

More fool you. They heat a much smaller volume and so use less power to heat
something small like a pie etc and so heat the room less than a full sized oven.