On Fri, 22 May 2009 13:50:20 +0200, "Michael Kuettner"
> wrote:
>> Germany pretended to own Mexico in the 1860's. Many countries
>> including the U.S. did not recognize them.
>>
>Since there was no Germany until 1871, that would be a neat trick.
I'm not going to continue this "debate" after this message, cuz it
ain't one.
"A region named Germania inhabited by several Germanic peoples has
been known and documented before AD 100. Beginning in the 10th
century, German territories formed a central part of the Holy Roman
Empire that lasted until 1806. During the 16th century, northern
Germany became the centre of the Protestant Reformation. As a modern
nation-state, the country was first unified amidst the Franco-Prussian
War in 1871."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germany
So there were Germanic tribes and Germanic territories before 1870.
Golly, do you think they had any culture - maybe "sausage making"?
>>>While there is a German influence, it had nothing to do with Maximilian.
>>
>> Most Austrians considered themselves German.
>
>Nonsense.
Why do you think Hitler annexed Austria in 1938?
>The question was whether the German speaking countries of the ex -
>Holy Roman Empire of German Nation would be unified under Austrian
>or Prussian rule. We lost in 1866.
This isn't about hostory and politics, it's about food.
>> Austrians love sausage, too. Max was a Hapsburg (burg?)
>>
>Habsburg. But of a side-line.
>And yes, we like our sausages. Thusly our "Würstlstand", a shop
>where you can buy hot sausages (Frankfurter, Burenwurst, Debreziner,
>Weißwurst, Bratwurst, etc) as a snack until 5 in the morning.
>
>> Actally the statement stood alone. Everything I said is correct. You
>> are the one making connections. As I said, this wasn't a history
>> lesson
>>
>Well, then don't try to make statements about history.
German culture in Mexico - that was the focus.
>
>> German culture flourished in Mexico in the 1800s.
>Which German culture ?
Culture doesn't stop at political boundary lines.
>The culture in Germany after 1871 was definitely different from
>the culture of the Holy Roman Empire.
That sounds stupid!
You mean on Decmeber 31, 1871, Otto blew the whistle and said, "time
to change cultures"?
>> It was spurred by
>> increased immigration - Germans/Austrians and Eastern Europeans
>> flocked to America's shores bringing there cultures with them.
>>
>Nobody claimed otherwise.
>
>> To deny this is sheer stupidity.
>>
>Yes. But that immigration had nothing to do with Maximilian.
German culture, which is what I've said from the beginning.
>> The Mexicans had chorizo from Spain - highly spiced to preserve it -
>> the Germans added their skills and recipes over the decades.
>>
>> (Deitrich Chorizo is a brand here)
>>
>Deitrich or Dietrich ?
>
>> The Mexicans call all sausage chorizo. I can buy German wurst as well
>> as English sausages (bangers) - all made locally.
>>
>> Best of the day!~
>> mad
>
>Servus,
>
>Michael Kuettner
You're contentious and pedantic, old chap, and don't focus on the
issues. The theme was German culture in Mexico, and everything I
mentioned was relevent..
I'll mentioned Hitler invading Austria again. He was born in Austria
and considerd himself a German -as many Austrians did.
Godwin's Law. End of thread.
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mad