On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 07:06:50 -0500, George Shirley wrote:

> George wrote:
>> blake murphy wrote:
>>> On Fri, 19 Jun 2009 11:08:57 -0500, Michel Boucher wrote:
>>>
>>>> blake murphy > wrote in
>>>> :
>>>>> jeez, i thought all teachers were democrat stooges. at least, that's
>>>>> what the republicans tell me.
>>>> You have to stop watching PinheadTV, aka Faux News.
>>>
>>> sometimes i thank god i don't have cable.
>>>
>>> your pal,
>>> blake
>>
>> I don't get why liberals fear Fox news so much. Do liberals believe
>> their ideology is so weak that they actually fear hearing different
>> viewpoints because it might sway them or someone else?
>>
>> I am not a big news junkie but I watch/read a pretty good range of news
>> just to get an idea what is going on.
> Probably because Fox doesn't slant their news to the sinister or left
> side. They just report the news. The mainstream media no longer has real
> reporters, they always slant their news to try to influence public
> opinion in the direction the owners, mainly left-wingers, want it to go.

sorry, this is bullshit. the mainstream media has not been 'liberal' for
at least thirty years.

you're half-right, though - they do influence people in the direction of
their owners - immensely wealthy people who are anything but liberal. you
think jack welch (owner of general electric) is a tree-hugger? um, no.

the mainstream media did nothing but cheer on the war in iraq, and anyone
who objected was painted as a left-wing crazy. who turned out to be right?

when dick cheney wanted to get his point of view out, he went on 'meet the
press':

Flashed on the courtroom computer screens were her notes from 2004 about
how Cheney could respond to allegations that the Bush administration had
played fast and loose with evidence of Iraq's nuclear ambitions. Option 1:
"MTP-VP," she wrote, then listed the pros and cons of a vice presidential
appearance on the Sunday show. Under "pro," she wrote: "control message."

"I suggested we put the vice president on 'Meet the Press,' which was a
tactic we often used," Martin testified. "It's our best format."

<http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/01/25/AR2007012501951.html>

this doesn't suggest that cheney was afraid of being mercilessly grilled by
noted liberal tim russert.

when hundreds of thousands of people turned out in u.s. to protest the
invasion of iraq it was a huge yawn. when a few thousand tea-baggers
turned out to protest - what - that obama is a 'socialist?' - it was on fox
news 24/7.

Despite its promise to deliver "total fair and balanced network coverage"
of the April 15 tea party protests, Fox News repeatedly promoted the
protests on that day, while hosts and guests, including those on Fox
Business, engaged in inflammatory rhetoric during their coverage of the
protests. As Media Matters for America documented, Fox News aggressively
promoted the protests prior to April 15, encouraging viewers to get
involved across the country. The network also featured at least 20 segments
on the protests and at least 73 in-show and commercial promotions for them
from April 6 to April 13. Indeed, Fox News has repeatedly described the
protests as "FNC Tax Day Tea Parties."

<http://mediamatters.org/research/200904160011>

no one, and i mean *no one*, thinks fox is 'fair and balanced' except
right-wingers, who see disloyal leftists under every bush.

blake