On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 08:56:46 -0400, George wrote:

> sf wrote:
>> On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 15:40:11 -0500, "Gregory Morrow"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Health care "reform" is dead in the water.
>>
>> 72% of the American people support it, yet you say it's dead in the
>> water? What color is your sky?
>>
> I would say it is reality colored. More and more folks are catching on
> as to what this stuff will cost. During the campaign Obama explicitly
> lied to everyone (he was a sitting senator and had all of the numbers)
> that no tax increases would be required to pay for his health care plan
> and even made attacking his rival's correct opinion that it would a key
> issue.

well, bear in mind that as it stands now, we now pay twice what other
developed countries pay

United States $5711
Australia $2886
Austria $2958
Belgium $3044
Canada $2998
Denmark $2743
Finland $2104
France $3048
Germany $2983
Iceland $3159
Ireland $2466
Italy $2314
Japan $2249
Luxembourg $4611
Netherlands $2909
Norway $3769
Sweden $2745
Switzerland $3847
United Kingdom $2317

<http://www.dailyhowler.com/dh061809.shtml>

often, for worse outcomes:

<http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2009/05/news-flash-car-dealers-are-republicans.html>

note, that's *per capita* not per person that is covered. so maybe taxes
go up and premiums go down.

blake