On Jul 8, 7:37*pm, "Dave Bugg" > wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
> > "Dave Bugg" > wrote in message
> m...
> >> Gloria P wrote:
> >>> Dave Bugg wrote:
> >>>> Food SnobŪ wrote:
>
> >>>>> Coincidentally, tonight is our block's walk and talk with a police
> >>>>> officer night. *We are going to ask the police to talk to the
> >>>>> woman and tell her that as far as children are concerned, "No
> >>>>> means no."
>
> >>>> Bryan, wouldn't it be better to just go and talk with the woman
> >>>> yourself? I don't see the need to have the police do anything; I
> >>>> see this more as a neighbor to neighbor discussion of expectations
> >>>> concerning what happened to your child. I would also believe that
> >>>> from and adult point of view, this neighbor may not have recognized
> >>>> coersion in the same manner that you feel occured. Again, that is
> >>>> why a friendly, but firm, talk would be the way I would approach
> >>>> it. Dragging the police in seems to me to be creating a far more
> >>>> polarizing atmosphere when there were no threats or other breaches
> >>>> of the law. Just sayin'.
>
> >>> It depends on whether you just want her to stop with your child or
> >>> want to save others the hassle of her efforts. *If she is a "true
> >>> believer" she won't stop proselytizing until she is scared into
> >>> stopping by some authority figure.
>
> >> Proselytizing is not against the law. It is up to each parent to
> >> decide what they wish to do for their own child. Each parent can
> >> talk to this person should they wish. There is no reason to drag
> >> government authority into a neigbor-to-neighbor dispute.
>
> >> --
> >> Dave
>
> > Who is to say this is an innocent woman who is simply proselytizing?
>
> I suppose we could imagine and suppose all sorts of scenarios, but much
> would be settled by talking to the woman, including what she is teaching.
The problem was not the content of her teaching. It was pressuring a
child to stay and listen when he had voiced a desire to leave.
> If problems persist, then there is plenty of time to look at other options.
> People are just too quick to have government solve problems that are easily
> solved by themselves.
Now that I've told the policewoman, and our councilman who was
accompanying her, I can talk to the neighbor tomorrow. The neighbor
was not the one pressuring him to stay, but she stood idly by while
the religious facilitators that she brought into our neighborhood did
so.
My son got to meet our neighborhood officer who will soon be riding
her beat on her new bicycle. I love community policing, and think
that the police should know about the little details of conflicts
between citizens. They have the responsibility for enforcing laws
only when laws are broken, but they also are there to preempt
escalations by talking to people.
> Now if she had pitbulls, or neighborhood cats are
> mysteriously going missing.....
The pitbulls are whole nother thing
>
> --
> Dave
> What is best in life? * *"To crush your enemies, see them driven before
> you, and to hear the lamentation of the women." -- Conan
Do you really ascribe to that?
--Bryan