On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 14:10:29 -0500, Goomba wrote:

> blake murphy wrote:
>> On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 19:43:38 -0500, Goomba wrote:
>>
>>> blake murphy wrote:
>>>
>>>> this is utter bullshit. try getting cancer treatment at your ER.
>>>> guaranteed treatment for trauma is not 'health care coverage.'
>>>>
>>>> your pal,
>>>> blake
>>> FYI- in countries with nationalized care cancer treatments aren't
>>> assured either.
>>
>> this is more utter bullshit. really, goomba, you should know better. you
>> don't even bother to provide some bullshit cite.
>>
>> blake
>
> Hardly bullshit, Blake. I've lived in places with nationalized health
> care. I know how the GP's can limit access to specialists. I know how
> care gets rationed based on age or other discriminators. It isn't
> uncommon to read about people suing the NHS for drugs that they refuse
> to provide.... you can find stories easily enough.
>
> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/ar...new-drugs.html
> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/ar...ding-drug.html
> http://www.biggovhealth.org/stories
> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...-new-drug.html

the *daily mail* is generally recognized as a right-wing rag.

but even so, nothing being proposed in the u.s. is like the national health
service in britain (where doctors and health care workers work directly for
the government, and is seriously underfunded to boot).

but it's irrelevant. *much* more serious 'rationing' occurs in the u.s.
every ****ing day courtesy of the for-profit insurance companies. and if
you don't have insurance - well, you don't get cancer drugs even if they
are cheap if you don't have the money.

blake