On Thu, 07 Jan 2010 19:13:42 -0800, Dan Abel > wrote:

>In article >,
> blake murphy > wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 06 Jan 2010 10:43:07 -0800, Dan Abel wrote:
>
>> >> sf wrote:
>> >
>> >>> I looked up Jacques Pepin. It's a 49 recipe pdf. No thanks.
>
>> > And if you don't want 49, I don't think it's rocket science to extract
>> > just the ones you want, and print or file those.
>>
>> the .pdfs i've seen are resistant to cut and paste. do you have a good
>> method?
>
>Well, I *thought* I did. I use a Mac. pdf files open with an Apple
>application. In the FILE menu, there is a GRAB command, with a
>SELECTION option. Grab what you want, and it opens in a little window.
>You can then do a standard COPY, and then PASTE it where you want. But
>it's a graphic, not text. Still, you can save it or print it.
>
>So, no Acrobat Reader on this machine. Went in the living room to the
>Mac there. Opened up Acrobat Reader v5.0. No menu item. Looked
>harder. The tool bar has a Text tool. I could copy and paste text with
>it. There's also another tool that works like the GRAB.
>
>Went back to this machine. I'll be darned! A tool bar with both a text
>tool and the other!
>
>So, it's not perfect. The text doesn't preserve the formatting, and the
>graphics doesn't let you edit the text.

It's called creating outlines. If something is put together in
Illustrator with 10 different fonts and sent to a commercial printer
they won't be able to do the job unless they have all the fonts
installed. When you make a PDF with Illustrator you have an option to
let it be edited with illustrator or not. But you won't be able to
edit unless you have the font installed. There's also legal issues
with sharing fonts. A printer would much rather have outlines than be
troubled with installing a bunch of new fonts they will only use for
one job. I'm a few years out of the loop but IIRC back then even a
fine machine started choking after 500 or so fonts were installed.

Lou