On 2010-04-25 16:42:08 -0700, Dave Bugg said:

> Juan Anonly wrote:
>> On 2010-04-25 15:39:56 -0700, Omelet said:
>>
>>> Gun ban laws only affect law abiding citizens.
>>
>> Great! Where can I got to be protected by "gun ban" laws?
>
> Great Britain. Japan. A buncha places all around the globe.
>
>>> They do NOT affect criminals who will be armed regardless of laws.
>
>> This assumes that if we had "gun bans", then criminals would have
>> plenty of opportunities to buy guns. But logically they would have as
>> tough a time buying guns as anyone else. They'd have to violate laws
>> just to get them.
>
> Who says that gun-toting mopes 'buy' guns? And yes, the bad-guys do
> violate gun laws. They violate 'gun-free' zones. They illegally shoot
> people.

If gun manufacturers weren't providing guns to every man, woman and
child they could scare the shit out of, they wouldn't have millions of
guns to throw around. Thus bad guys couldn't buy gones that weren't
manufactured.

> And all over the world, anyone with a basic metal working shop can turn
> out a gun.

And have as good a chance of blowing off their hand as not.

> Guns don't simply disappear from a society because they are made illegal.

No manufacturing them has to be made illegal.

> What does happen, though, is that the innocent is no longer easily able
> to defend themselves from an overpowering bad guy. A woman is left at
> the mercy of a rapist with a knife or bat or physical stature.

Amazing to think so thousands of rapists are killed each year in the
use. What is it--500 a day? Also, I don't hink anybody has yet said
"Our childurn--we have to think of our childurn!"
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