On 4/29/2010 2:43 PM, Bertie Doe wrote:
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> "BobF" > wrote in message
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>> On 4/29/2010 4:55 AM, Bertie Doe wrote:
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>>> "Bertie Doe" > wrote in message
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>>>> "Marshall Jose" < wrote in message
>>>>> Bertie Doe wrote:
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>>>>>> Any ideas on how to stop the wine earlier and thus leave some sugar
>>>>>> in solution, but avoid a secondary?
>>>>>> I didn't have this problem with kits, but the DIY method seems a lot
>>>>>> tastier and is a hell of a lot cheaper. TIA.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bertie
>>>>>
>>>>> Jack Keller has some useful information about this topic:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://winemaking.jackkeller.net/finishin.asp under the topic
>>>>> "Stopping Fermentation"
>>>>>
>>>>> In order to end up with a wine which is "not dry", you have to either
>>>>> force fermentation to stop (through a combination of sulfite and
>>>>> sorbate), or pitch a yeast with a low alcohol toxicity such that it
>>>>> dies before all the sugar is metabolized. The latter method is
>>>>> maddening because yeast population dwindles slowly at the toxicity
>>>>> level.
>>>>>
>>>>> Marshall
>>>>
>>>> I bought some sulphate and sorbate yesterday and added to both wines.
>>>> The white (which is older) stopped within a few hours, the younger
>>>> more active red, took about 20 hours to stop. Thanks again for the
>>>> Jack Keller link, I'll follow the advice and wait another 10 days for
>>>> the dead cells to drop.
>>>>
>>>> Bertie
>>>
>>> Update : 10 days later, the white was gin clear, but both the white and
>>> red had re-started. Activity is very slow - one bubble per day white and
>>> about 4 bubbles per day from the red.
>>>
>>> I don't want to add another camden tab, so I will follow Dave W
>>> suggestion and raise temp to 150F.
>>>
>>> Bertie
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>> It may not have restarted. That is likely residual co2 you're seeing
>> bubble out.
>>
>> I would degas before doing anything else to it.
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> Degassing, is this done by racking? Neither wine has been racked, as I'm
> always a bit nervous about contamination.
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vigorous stirring and vacuum are the most popular methods. Racking does
degas some due to the siphon action.