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Default No Milk (Was: Harnessing the sun to keep milk fresh : A story from Goa)

On alt.food.vegan, Romanise > wrote:
> On May 7, 2:46=A0am, Sidney Lambe > wrote:
>> On alt.food.vegan, Romanise > wrote:
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>> > On May 6, 6:17=3DA0pm, Sidney Lambe > wro=

> te:
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>> >> You can't keep goats or cows or buffalos without land.

>>
>> > In India many without land often living in mid size towns keep a cow
>> > or two, a buffalo, or a couple of goats.

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>> If they don't have land to graze these animals on, how do they
>> eat, Einstein?

>
> They buy cattle-feed. Most towns have markets for cattle-feed where
> farmers from neighbouring villages bring their green corn stock,


Then they are being subsidized by the government. A real peasant
can't afford to feed a dog. Their dogs have to live off of rats
and such. Feeding a cow for milk products is so incredibly inefficient
that it is a sad joke. Those farmers could be bringing in food to
feed those people directly.

Listen very closely. This is the last time I am wasting my energy
trying to educate you in the realities of agriculture.

A mature cow requires a minimum of an acre of natural land to
feed it. And this acre has to be as lush and verdant as the
Garden of Eden. An acre is 43,560 square feet. In the real world,
10 acres of grassland per cow would be the average. That same
acre could devoted to raising food for the animal. 'Wastes' from
larger plots devoted to farming could also be used to feed the
animal. Both of these latter solutions are unsustainable.

That acre can feed 20 herbies. That's right, a pure vegetarian can
live off of 1/20 of an acre of no-till, bio-intensive gardening.
This is a maintenance diet, and it's better to double the size
of the individual garden to 1/10 of an acre per person.

You are promoting the false idea that someone can keep cattle
without any land, and this is absurd. That minimum of an
acre of land is needed to feed that cow and that acre could
feed 20 people instead.

That cow will drink more water than those 20 people would need
to maintain their gardens.

Now I invite you to the comforts and pleasures of my killfile.

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Sid