On May 7, 1:10*pm, Sidney Lambe > wrote:
> On alt.food.vegan, Romanise > wrote:
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> > On May 7, 2:46=A0am, Sidney Lambe > wrote:
> >> On alt.food.vegan, Romanise > wrote:
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> >> > On May 6, 6:17=3DA0pm, Sidney Lambe > wro=
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> >> >> You can't keep goats or cows or buffalos without land.
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> >> > In India many without land often living in mid size towns keep a cow
> >> > or two, a buffalo, or a couple of goats.
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> >> If they don't have land to graze these animals on, how do they
> >> eat, Einstein?
>
> > They buy cattle-feed. Most towns have markets for cattle-feed where
> > farmers from neighbouring villages bring their green corn stock,
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> Then they are being subsidized by the government.

Indian Government subsidizes human food almost all the time,
subsidises education, subsidises medical care, subsidises public
transport, subsidises cooking fuel, but cattle-feed only occasionally
in the regions which occasionally face draught situation and even
then only for rural and constantly migrant (those who live on live
stock moving it from place to place) people.
> A real peasant
> can't afford to feed a dog.

Indians do not care to feed dogs.

> Their dogs have to live off of rats
> and such.

Dogs except of very rich Indians are street dogs.

> Feeding a cow for milk products is so incredibly inefficient
> that it is a sad joke.

Cows and buffaloes have lifted lot of rural poor where certain
cooperative dairies have come up. Check on Amul Dairy.

> Those farmers could be bringing in food to
> feed those people directly.
However much they can they do.

> Listen very closely. This is the last time I am wasting my energy
> trying to educate you in the realities of agriculture.

**** off you ****ing idiot.

> A mature cow requires a minimum of an acre of natural land to
> feed it. And this acre has to be as lush and verdant as the
> Garden of Eden. An acre is 43,560 square feet. In the real world,
> 10 acres of grassland per cow would be the average. That same
> acre could devoted to raising food for the animal. 'Wastes' from
> larger plots devoted to farming could also be used to feed the
> animal. Both of these latter solutions are unsustainable.
>
> That acre can feed 20 herbies. That's right, a pure vegetarian can
> live off of 1/20 of an acre of no-till, bio-intensive gardening.
> This is a maintenance diet, and it's better to double the size
> of the individual garden to 1/10 of an acre per person.
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> You are promoting the false idea that someone can keep cattle
> without any land, and this is absurd. That minimum of an
> acre of land is needed to feed that cow and that acre could
> feed 20 people instead.
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> That cow will drink more water than those 20 people would need
> to maintain their gardens.
>
> Now I invite you to the comforts and pleasures of my killfile.
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> Sid