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Default The myth of food production "efficiency" in the "ar" debate

On May 15, 8:41*am, "Fred C. Dobbs" >
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> On 5/14/2010 3:37 PM, Rupert wrote:
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> > On May 15, 7:23 am, "Fred C. >
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> >> On 5/14/2010 1:34 PM, Dutch wrote:

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> >>> What the efficiency argument actually says, on any reasonably
> >>> intelligent reading, is that by going vegan you can have a diet which
> >>> is just as tasty and nutritious with a much smaller environmental
> >>> footprint. That's the claim, and it's true, and some people reasonably
> >>> see it as a good reason for going vegan.
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> >>> I would dispute all of the claims in that response.

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> >>> Vegan diets are not just as tasty, not to me. Meat and dairy introduces
> >>> irreplaceable tastes and variety to any diet.

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> >>> Vegan diets are not just as nutritious in many cases. I have personally
> >>> experienced failure to thrive on vegetarian diets and I know many people
> >>> have. There was a recent study to this effect posted to aaev, and the
> >>> issue is well documented at beyondveg.com.

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> >>> Vegan diets are not always associated with a smaller environmental
> >>> footprint. They CAN BE, but Steven Davis's study, the Polyface Farm, and
> >>> the experience of many small farmers illustrate that it is quite
> >>> possible to use meat in a diet and have a small environmental footprint.