On May 17, 9:53*am, sf > wrote:
> On Mon, 17 May 2010 09:29:48 +0200, "Giusi" >
> wrote:
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> > "Ostap Bender" > ha scritto nel messaggio
> > news:f282b494-2df2-4367-
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> > Why would the kitchen term "Dutch oven" be an insult, and to Germansof all
> > people? Are you confusing these cooking pots with concentrationcamp
> > crematorium ovens?
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> > You must be culturally adrift. *Pennsylvania Dutch have affected American
> > English for 2 centuries, and they are German = deutsch.
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> Insult? *Culturally adrift? *Oh, man. *I'm one who has never thought
> "going Dutch" was an insult. *It just meant you were independent and
> owed nobody a "favor" because you paid for (took care of) yourself.
> It's an old fashioned concept.
>

First, the point is that if I invite you to pay your own way I am not
treating you; if I need a drink to be brave, that is not real courage;
a heavy metal pot is not a real oven.

And the Dutch/deutsh thing is obvious. Did the Pennsylvania Dutch
come from the Netherlands? The name was confused/corrupted in PA.

I'll look into this.

Bulka