Janet Wilder wrote:
>
> Pete C. wrote:
> > Janet Wilder wrote:
> >> Pete C. wrote:
> >>> Janet Wilder wrote:
> >>>> A generator would keep the fridge and freezer cold. There ia no way we
> >>>> can use it for a bi-pap machine and an oxygen concentrator. Have a
> >>>> bottle of oxygen, but need power for the bi-pap machine. DH's blood
> >>>> oxygen drops precariously without the bi-pap.
> >> We don't have a place to put one out of the weather. We would have to
> >> expose our garage to wind and rain to keep a genset there and then the
> >> cord would have to be a few hundred feet long. Not viable according to
> >> experts.
> >
> > Essentially all residential standby gensets come with their own weather
> > housings and just sit on a concrete pad outside. You are thinking of
> > portable contractor type generators and that is not what I am referring
> > to at all.
> >
> >> Please don't tell me about generators. I have more hands-on experience
> >> than you do.
> >
> > I'm sorry, but you don't. I've worked with commercial standby generators
> > 100KW and up in data center environments since 1995. I have managed
> > projects to install some of these generators as well.
> >
> >> I lived in an RV with a 3,000K propane genset and a whole
> >> house 2,000W inverter on a battery bank of 4 golf cart batteries. I know
> >> much more about the ventilation of these things than you appear to.
> >
> > RV class generators are not in the same class as commercial standby
> > generators at all.
> >
> > The standby generators I have extensive experience are 100KW and up, in
> > several sites I deal with there are multiple MW of gensets, paralleling
> > switch gear and 20,000 gal+ of diesel supply.
> >
> >> I have consulted experts and had them in my home to look at the problem.
> >> I've tried being nice, but you evidently have a need to treat me like I
> >> was some kind of moron. Save your lectures for someone who needs them.
> >
> > There is a new class of residential standby gensets that has mostly
> > appeared in the last decade that you and those experts you have
> > consulted are apparently not aware of. They have the same weather housed
> > mount on concrete pad outdoors design as the commercial standby units,
> > but they are LP/Nat. gas i.e. gaseous fueled (most commercial are
> > diesel), and available in smaller sizes and packaged with smaller
> > transfer switches for residential use.
> >
> > In short, I am not treating you like a moron as you seem to feel, I am
> > making you aware of a class of generators that you are apparently not
> > aware of. They are also not from some obscure and questionable company,
> > below are links to these generator lines from three major respected
> > generator manufacturers.
> >
> > Generac Guardian series residential automatic standby generators (8KW to
> > 60KW):
> > http://www.generac.com/Residential/G...ardian_Series/
> >
> > Kohler residential automatic standby generators (8.5KW to 100KW):
> > http://www.kohlerpower.com/residenti...Number=13 561
> >
> > Cummins Onan residential automatic standby generators (12KW to 100KW):
> > http://www.cumminsonan.com/residenti...ts/homestandby
>
> All the standby generators need gas for fuel. We have no natural gas
> lines out here. The alternative would be to bury a propane tank. The
> cost of the tank and the generator is just too prohibitive. Of course
> if you would like to foot the bill for bringing a natural gas line to my
> house from the closest point 3 miles away, I'd be delighted. Burying a
> tank in an area prone to flooding is not such a good idea.

Yep, it may not be cost effective, though the cost should be weighed
against the criticality of the medical equipment, the frequency of
outage threats and the cost of evacuating for those threats.

"Too expensive" is still quite different from "A generator would keep
the fridge and freezer cold. There ia no way we can use it for a bi-pap
machine and an oxygen concentrator". Which is why I pointed out the
residential standby generator packages that are available.

>
> As I type I'm hoping it doesn't rain any more as our yard was flooded
> fro Alex.

Good luck with that. Send a bit of rain up north of Dallas so I don't
have to keep watering my lawn. We keep getting threats of rain, but when
that rain materializes it's about 15 drops and it's done.