On 7/3/2010 12:07 PM, Kris wrote:
> On Jul 3, 6:40 am, > wrote:
>> On 7/2/2010 5:28 PM, Pete C. wrote:
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>>> blake murphy wrote:
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>>>> On Thu, 01 Jul 2010 20:55:33 -0500, Pete C. wrote:
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>>>>> Don Martinich wrote:
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>>>>>> "Pete > wrote:
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>>>>>>> Let me preface this by saying that I hate NYC and think overall it is a
>>>>>>> festering dumpster of pseudo-humanity. Beyond that however, if you have
>>>>>>> to go there for some reason, there is indeed very good food pretty much
>>>>>>> everywhere if you avoid any sort of national chain place. I've had great
>>>>>>> pizza from a hole in the wall place across the street from B&H Photo, a
>>>>>>> great Ethiopian dinner at Queen of Sheeba Ethiopian Restaurant somewhere
>>>>>>> on the way back to the bus station, and various other great food
>>>>>>> elsewhere.
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>>>>>> I hope you waved hello to all my money when you walked by B&H Photo. ;=}
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>>>>> Actually, B&H was the target, to visit their store after dealing with
>>>>> them for years on the phone and online, and to pickup some film for the
>>>>> photo shoot that brought us to NYC. After taking the bus down from CT
>>>>> and hiking over to do our thing at B&H it was about lunch time and the
>>>>> little hole in the wall across the street had really good pizza.
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>>>> not bad for pseudo-humans, huh?
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>>>> blake
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>>> Good food - Check
>>> Clean streets - Fail
>>> Clean buildings - Fail
>>> Reliable infrastructure - Fail
>>> Elbow room - Fail
>>> Sane traffic - Fail
>>> Reasonable parking - Fail
>>> Friendly people - Fail
>>> Low crime - Fail
>>> Reasonable COL - Fail
>>> CHL - Fail
>>> etc.
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>> Sounds like you haven't been there for quite some time. After one
>> liberal administration after another worried more about hurting the
>> feelings of the riff-raff folks who were raising a family, had a job etc
>> had enough and hired Giuliani and within a few years there was a major
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> I do hear that the subway crime is way down, as is crime in most areas
> that visitors would go. Heck, the village is practically mainstream
> now!

Major difference, wasn't that long ago when every car was dirty and
covered with graffiti (both the outside and from riff-raff scratching
stuff on the glass). People had enough of being nice to and trying not
to hurt the feelings of riff-raff and they really cleaned them out. Now
the the cars are clean and well maintained, many stations have been
re-tiled and repainted and they even vacuum the tracks.

If you want to see the closest thing to what the village used to be go
over to St Marks Place in the evening.


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> Much better than the late seventies, I would think.

Yes, we were out there maybe a month ago enjoying a drink @ 1 AM in the
pavilion in Gramercy Park that is sponsored by Southwest Airlines.
Gramercy Park is impeccability maintained which people now respect.

There is no way you would ever think of being in a park at night not so
long ago.

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> Kris