"Arri London" > wrote in message
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> Jinx Minx wrote:
>>
>> "Omelet" > wrote in message
>> news
>> > In article >, Arri London >
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> > An MD is absolutely warranted (and required) to do a C-section.
>> >> > They
>> >> > cannot
>> >> > be done by midwives or nurse-midwives. C-sections are also not a
>> >> > "simple
>> >> > procedure". They are considered major surgery.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Yet in the poorest parts of the world, highly-trained midwives do
>> >> C-sections. There aren't enough trained physicians. It's that or let
>> >> mother and baby face certain death.
>> >
>> > Excellent point...
>> > --
>> > Peace! Om
>> >
>>
>> A lot of those "highly trained midwives" probably aren't so highly
>> trained,
>> especially in third world countries.
>
> They are sufficiently trained that both mother and baby survive and
> thrive. Don't forget that C-sections have been done by non MDs for
> centuries, often with good outcomes.

I'm well aware, and I'm not in any way, shape or form stating that they
shouldn't.

>
> My point wasn't that midwives
>> *shouldn't*, only that here in the U.S. they *don't*.
>
> But there isn't much reason for them not to.

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I never said otherwise.

None-the-less, they are considered "major" surgery -- not outpatient. Om is
the one that relegated them down to nothing. I'm not purporting that
they're equivalent to brain surgery, just that they're certainly more
serious than routine radiology exams and endoscopies. Just because they're
common and have been done for centuries doesn't make them easy and
un-demanding. Have you ever had one? Or better yet, performed one?

To go back to my original post: Om's post made it sound as if she was
saying that midwives perform C-sections here in the U.S. I only responded
to that to say that no, they don't. M.D.'s have to do them. Not because
midwives don't have the capability, but because that's legally how it is
here. That's all. Nothing more, nothing less.

Jinx