On Tue, 15 Feb 2011 12:46:50 -0800 (PST), Roy >
wrote:

>On Feb 15, 10:21*am, Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:
>> On Tue, 15 Feb 2011 07:43:38 -0500, "J. Clarke"
>>
>>
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>> > wrote:
>> >In article >,
>> >says...
>>
>> >> "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >> > ?
>> >> > "Lenona" > wrote
>> >> >>http://lifestyle.msn.com/relationshi...documentid=276...
>>
>> >> >> Dear Miss Manners,
>> >> >> Who should get the check? My question is in regards to the etiquette
>> >> >> of getting the check at the end of the meal. I was raised that if it
>> >> >> was not made very clear at the beginning (such as "don't worry we are
>> >> >> taking you out"), to always make an effort to pay.
>>
>> >> >> Gentle Reader,
>> >> >> Yes, sometimes even parents. The long habit of paying for their
>> >> >> children often remains; many parents prefer to continue to do so and
>> >> >> will make sure they win any such polite arguments as you mention. But
>> >> >> even they will be flattered if you occasionally make a point of
>> >> >> issuing a clear invitation at which you are the hosts -- at a place
>> >> >> that you can afford.
>>
>> >> > If I invite you as my guest, I pay
>> >> > If you invite me as your guest, you pay
>> >> > If friends say "do you want to go out to eat", we split it
>>
>> >> > As for paying for (adult) children, it pretty much applies the same way
>> >> > but can change with their finances. *My son always pays though (his
>> >> > choice) and can easily afford it.
>>
>> >> And if it is a date and he 'lets' you see what he is paying-he wants
>> >> something more than just dinner.
>>
>> All normal brained females can see and tally the prices on the menu
>> when they order... and even when someone places the order they gotta
>> know that surf n' turf costs more than a burger w/fries.
>>
>> >If it is a date take it as a given that he wants something more than
>> >dinner.
>>
>> Well duh, that's true when a women accepts a date... and it's just as
>> likely it's the women who expects "something"... if all a women wants
>> is to eat dinner then she'd go out with her girlfriends. *A date with
>> one man and one woman is by default a prelude to intimacy. *Are you
>> really so naive?
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>"A prelude to intimacy" eh? Were it ever that simple a process. Women
>are a lot more complicated than that...in my experience. It usually
>takes more than a dinner date or two to know a person other than
>superficially. On the other hand, there are those who by nature or by
>circumstance are not as astute in their conduct and will drop their
>drawers in a flash. My advice would be to avoid that type.

What's wrong with knowing each other superficially... you want
profound intellectual banter join a book club... you don't
necessarilly need to get to know each other intellectually for high
quality intimacy, why toss away a good mutually satisfing lay... you
don't need to propose marriage. I think most people in long term
relationships as the years pass grow apart more than they grow
together... they live together is all but don't really know each other
intellectually or intimately, why do you think more than half of all
marriages fail? You most definitely are naive.