On Sep 6, 2:01*pm, Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:
> Omelet wrote:
> >George Sock wrote:
>
> >> A lot has happened in the 20 years you have been out of touch. There are
> >> numerous schools that offer 4 semester programs in areas such as HVAC.
> >> Thats two *years of classroom plus lots of practical experience.
>
> >Yah.
>
> >And they charge about 12K plus.
> >Trade schools tend to be rip-offs and do not follow up on their job
> >guarantees.
>
> >At least not in health care.
>
> >I've seen plenty of co-workers ripped off by the 'nads by "trade
> >schools".
>
> >Pay for college. You will get more attention.
> >And better long term pay.
>
> Trade schools, what a stupid concept... you cannot learn any trade out
> of a book. *And high school shop classes teach nothing... no one will
> pay someone wages who can make a pair infantile bookends in six
> months... those shop classes are how they keep the delinquents
> occupied until they are old enough to drop out, out of sight and out
> of mind... and the so-called educators believe they did their job,
> NOT! *A real educator should be able to cull out those who will never
> succeed in academia but will do well in the arts. *By the time a kid
> is fourteen they should have enough of the basic 3 Rs to lead a
> productive life in any vocation, that's when it's time to begin a
> formal apprenticeship, older is too late. *Whoever came up with the
> fercocktah idea that every kid has to sit in a classroom until they're
> eighteen was a lunatic. *BOCES is a failed attempt, another lunatic's
> brain child... industry and government need to install real
> apprenticeship programs, so that by the time one is 18 years old they
> are capable to go out and ply their trade and support themselves and a
> family if they so choose... when did it come to where kids can live in
> their parent's basement until they're forty+ before they need to
> behave like adults... yer eighteen, ya don't wanna work, GTF out ya
> little useless bastid! *Private trade schools have no more value than
> preparing someone to make license plates in prison. *And just like not
> everyone can succeed in academia not everyone was born with the ennate
> talent to succeed in a trade... someone gotta clean terlits. *The US
> educational system is a disaster... Trillion$ in school taxes wasted.
> Not everyone needs to become a scientist, no one needs to be adept in
> calculous to build a space ship... no PhD ever built anything,
> talented hands/creative minds do the actual making, not dreamers. *In
> case anyone doesn't know scientists are not paid very well, most are
> housed, given access to the most powerful computers on the planet, and
> given a stipend to cover living expenses. *The craftspeople
> (tool/instrument makers) who actually turn the theoretical into
> reality and fabricate the hardware are paid much more. *This no talent
> George Sock has obviously never been gainfully employed, another
> friggin' know nothing parasite.

I learned the basics in trade school. When I came out, I was ready
for an apprenticeship. We learned enough in trade school to prepare
us for learning in the real world. When you started an
apprenticeship, the employer expected you to know what a sine bar was,
how to sharpen tooling, rakes, angles, cutting speeds as related to
material being machined, etc. However, it still took and takes years
to make a machinist.