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How producing "ethical, zero-harm" plant food for vegans andvegetarians kills more animals than, well, actually killing animals for thepurpose of eating them.
On Jan 1, 11:20*pm, "Julie Bove" > wrote:
> John Kuthe wrote:
> > On Jan 1, 9:59 pm, "Julie Bove" > wrote:
> >> John Kuthe wrote:
> >>> On Jan 1, 9:46 pm, "Julie Bove" > wrote:
> >>>> Bryan wrote:
> >>>>> On Jan 1, 8:28 pm, "Julie Bove" > wrote:
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> >>>>>> I do know that animals suffer when we kill them for food. But
> >>>>>> thanks to my high school biology class, I also know that plants
> >>>>>> suffer when we cut them or pick them or burn them or any of the
> >>>>>> other things we might do to harvest them or even make the fields
> >>>>>> ready to grow another crop.
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> >>>>> Hahahahahaha! Plants suffering! You're a nutcase. Maybe you had a
> >>>>> kooky high school biology teacher.
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> >>>> He hooked up a meter to them to register their feelings.
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> >>> A "feeling" meter, right? What is the SI unit of suffering?
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> >>> I'm an electrical engineer as well as a registered nurse, Julie.
> >>> Talk to me!
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> >> I don't remember what it registered. I was 15 at the time. I'm 52
> >> now. I do know that he had us talk nicely to the plant and play
> >> classical music. When we did these things the meter didn't respond.
> >> Then he had us burn and cut the plant and play loud rock music.
> >> Before we did any of these things we had to announce what we were
> >> going to do. Such as... "I'm going to burn you!"
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> >> Not only did the meter respond wildly when we did these things, but
> >> after a few days of doing this, the meter reacted just to our words.
> >> So it was obvious on some level that the plant could tell what was
> >> going to happen.
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> > I'll bet it was measuring resistance to electrical current flow, or
> > maybe even minute electrical charges being produced by the plant. The
> > latter I've never heard of, but I'm not a plant physiologist either.
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> > Aha! :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plant_p...8physiology%29
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> > But since a plant does not contain nor possess any type of neural
> > system such as animals (and humans, since we are animals) have, I
> > think it's a far stretch to claim plants experience any type of pain
> > or suffering similar to the way animals (and humans) do.
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> > And I still don't know what your high school biology teacher was
> > measuring with a meter. And you apparently don't either, just that the
> > meter was moving.
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> I may have known at the time but I don't remember it now.
You seem to know very little about anything.
--Bryan
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