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Default USDA changed the Hardiness Zones

David Dyer-Bennet > wrote in
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> Doug Freyburger > writes:
>
>> Michel Boucher wrote:
>>> Doug Freyburger > wrote:
>>>
>>>> If global warming is a bad thing in the first place that
>>>> is. That point seems ignored.
>>>
>>> Well sure. We could always make hay with desertification of
>>> currently fertile areas and the reduction of the size of
>>> cattle not to mention the changes in human size and overall
>>> reduction of food supplies. And that's just the tip of what
>>> used to be the iceberg.

>>
>> Reduce tundra around what used to be the arctic, increase
>> desert around the equator. Not a large net change in amount
>> of arable land. As usual you are asserting that all change
>> is bad without actually dealing with the fact that change
>> happens anyways. A shift in the location or arable land is
>> only bad to the folks near the edges of the growing deserts.
>> It's a good thing for folks at the northern edge who see
>> their climates improve.

>
> Except that there *isn't* much population in the tundra, for
> example. And hence there isn't much infrastructure -- roads,
> rail lines, and things relevant to commercial agriculture.
> Grain elevators. Equipment dealers and repair places.
>
> And I'm not at all sure that the tundra, with a warmer
> climate, is good agricultural land. Most of northern
> Minnesota, while far from tundra, is still not terribly good
> agricultural land. And, just incidentally, really heavily
> infested with lakes and rivers...which makes putting in the
> infrastructure to support commercial farming (roads and rail
> lines especially) MUCH more expensive.


Tsk tsk...introducing real life issues into an otherwise unreal
argument is bound to screw the guy up.

Aw. What the heck. Have at it :-)

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