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dsi1 > writes:

> On 2/23/2012 12:38 PM, David Dyer-Bennet wrote:
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>> It's no effort. As I say, you clearly have a rather mild imagination.
>>
>> From my point of view, you claimed a level of loyalty that was
>> essentially infinite, and *that* isn't something I believe in.

>
> What the heck does my level of imagination have to do with loyalty?


If the only loyalty you can conceive of is total and irrevocable --
nothing. But nobody is worthy of that.

> It's obvious that you didn't place much stock in the idea. Very few
> people believe in unconditional loyalty these days. Back in the past
> it was all that mattered.


I think you're imagining a perfect past, there. Reading about medieval
sovereigns and their vassals, and clan chieftains elsewhere, and trives
everywhere, the theoretical model is often based on loyalty, but the
real practice had betrayals all over the place. Originating from either
side of the bond. The reality doesn't seem very perfect -- it's the
stuff that blood feuds lasting generations and costing hundreds of lives
are built on.
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