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On Feb 28, 8:05*pm, John Kuthe > wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Feb 2012 17:45:02 -0800 (PST), Bryan
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> >On Feb 28, 7:15*pm, (Emma Chandler) wrote:
> >> I took 20mg zocor for a while. After almost a year I was feeling the
> >> effects when using the muscles. I took myself off the statin. I was
> >> plaed on 10mg Zetia and 10 mg zocor. This low dosage has worked so
> >> far(2yrs) I also take 2 omega fish oil.
> >> I tried 4 fish oil but cholestra went up so I backed off to 2
> >> capsules(1000mg ea.)

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> >The fish oil was not having a bad impact on your cholesterol, but 2 or
> >3 is plenty, especially is you're taking care not to consume too much
> >Omega 6.

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> >> This combo seems to be ok. The nurse told me that usually if someone
> >> gets side effects of muscle ache it's when their statin dosage is
> >> increased.

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> >Supplemental CoQ is a good idea with statins. *It has also been noted
> >that Vitamin E can interfere with the beneficial actions of CoQ, so
> >you shouldn't take any more Vit E than is contained in a daily
> >multivitamin.

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> >--Bryan

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> What in the heck is CoQ? You mean Coenzyme Q10?
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> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coenzym..._statins_and_b...
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> "However, there are still no conclusive data that support the role of
> CoQ10 deficiency in the pathogenesis of statin-related myopathy."
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> I think you'd be better off listening to a real MD rather than
> self-professed expert Bryan!
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> http://blogs.webmd.com/cholesterol-m...tatins-and-mus...
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> "While there is no definitive clinical evidence of any strategies that
> can be used to prevent or reduce muscle injury, there is some evidence
> that coenzyme Q10 *may cause a significant reduction in statin-induced
> pain. Since the response has been variable, the use of coenzyme Q 10
> cannot be recommended with any degree of confidence."


If I was *trying* to set a trap for you that I figured you'd fall
into, I couldn't have done better. I NEVER stated that CoQ
contributed to "a significant reduction in statin-induced pain." I
didn't say that. AGAIN, sloppy. The last thing a BSN nurse should be
is sloppy.

Coenzyme Q10 levels are depleted by statins. You thought only about
the narrowly focused theme of muscle pain, and I'm sure that one part
of the reason was that you were in a hurry to dispute what I wrote,
but the other reason is that you are not very--and maybe not at all--
familiar with CoQ10.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14695926

You may say that I am not qualified to give dietary advice, but you
SURE AS SHIT ARE NOT. Read this, failed nurse:
http://faculty.washington.edu/ely/coenzq10.html

CoQ10 deficiency can lead to congestive heart failure.

Once again, you have demonstrated that you are not qualified to work
in allied health.

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> John Kuthe...


--Bryan