gtr wrote:

> > Civilized discourse. What's that phrase ?joi de vrie? (I know I murdered
> > the spelling.)
>
> "Joie de vivre" translates literally to "joy [of/in] life" and means
> enthusiastic spirit as you might expect. I can't think of a French
> expression for "Civilized discourse".

Joie de vivre is traditionally translated as "zest for life". That
other one... How about "discours a la bonne societe".