somebody wrote:
> On Jun 15, 11:29 pm, "Julie Bove" > wrote:
>> somebody wrote:
>>> On Jun 14, 10:21 pm, "Julie Bove" > wrote:
>>>> somebody wrote:
>>>>> On Jun 14, 6:02 pm, Gary > wrote:
>>>>>> somebody wrote:
>>
>>>>>>> Was in the mood for a thin crust pizza past few days and got one
>>>>>>> last night. It was good, but not all that filling. Though that
>>>>>>> way I could eat more. I usually get the thick crust but
>>>>>>> after 3 slices the carbs make me sleepy. Very sleepy. If I eat
>>>>>>> a lot of carbs in general I can barely stay away 20-30 minutes
>>>>>>> later.
>>
>>>>>> With all due respect, your 3 slices of pizza made you sleepy,
>>>>>> but you have no idea if it was the carbs.
>>
>>>>>> Carbs give you quick energy.
>>>>>> Carbs will not make you sleeply unless you pig out.
>>>>>> High fat can make you sleeply as your body has to work harder to
>>>>>> digest. Overeating anything (including carbs) will make you
>>>>>> sleepy.
>>
>>>>>> You probably had a lot of high fat toppings on that low carb thin
>>>>>> crust.
>>
>>>>>> I know most of you seem to hate carbs but serious athletes don't
>>>>>> and I don't either.
>>
>>>>>> Gary
>>
>>>>>> PS - I'm not out for another carb battle here where no one wins
>>>>>> but I'm so tired of all this "carbs are evil crap." Carbs are NOT
>>>>>> evil...that's what your body needs for fuel.
>>
>>>>>> And I'm talking about normal healthy people, not special cases
>>>>>> like diabetics.
>>
>>>>> actually I agree with you. And I used to be something of an
>>>>> athlete or tried to be. Rode my bike 30 miles then played doubles
>>>>> volleyball for a few hours on weekends. Not real high level, but
>>>>> above average... I don't believe carbs are evil at all. But they
>>>>> definitely effect me. It's not the fat. Actually I am vegetarian
>>>>> so not a lot of fat, though not vegan so do eat cheese which has
>>>>> fat. But I notice with things like spaghetti, peanut butter on
>>>>> whole wheat bread, fig newton, mushroom soup with egg noodles
>>>>> that I have a definite let down after 20-30 minutes. If I am
>>>>> active, not really so much but if I'm watching TV or trying to
>>>>> read a book, or sitting at work-- I have a hard time staying
>>>>> awake after eating even a moderate amount of carbs for lunch. I
>>>>> generally don't eat much carbs at lunch because I don't like how
>>>>> it effects me. Which is hard for me, because I really like to eat!
>>
>>>> If carbs are affecting you that much you could have reactive
>>>> hypoglycemia or diabetes.
>>
>>> I've noticed the effect pretty much all my adult life. Also, msg
>>> effects me that way too, like in canned mushroom soup... I've been
>>> to a couple doctors over the years and they said I don't have
>>> symptoms for diabetes. I will have to look up reactive hypoglycemia.
>>
>> Diabetes isn't diagnosed by symptoms.
>
> How is it diagnosed then? If you say by testing, then should everyone
> be tested?

Yes, and they are once they reach a certain age. How old are you? I
believe 40 is the age where they routinely test. But if there is a family
history, the person might be tested early, particulary if they are
overweight.

There are various tests that can be done. One is a random finger stick. If
the number is high enough it could warrant further testing. One is a
fasting finger stick. I managed to pass this one time and time again even
though I was actually a diabetic. It's just that I was unwittingly
controlling by diet. Another is the OGTT or oral glucose tolerance test.
You will be asked to drink a sickly sweet drink then sit quietly for many
hours. They will draw blood from a vein every hour or so. This is the same
test they would do for reactive hypoglycemia which is thought to be a
precursor to diabetes. I had it myself for most of my life. The final test
would be the HbA1c. This test can not diagnose if it is in normal range.
But if it is high then it can be used for diagosis. My diagnosis came about
after a fasting test at the hospital followed by the HbA1c at my
Endocrinologist's office. Mine was 10.0.