In article >,
Dave Smith > wrote:

> On 20/10/2012 12:54 PM, George M. Middius wrote:
> > Sqwertz wrote:
> >
> >>> She may invite it, but you can always take the high road and not
> >>> accept
> >>> the invitation....The old saying "if you can't say something nice, don't
> >>> say anything at all".....Sharon in Canada
> >>
> >> She not only invites it, but she thrives on this shit. We're doing
> >> her a favor.
> >
> > That's true to some degree, no doubt about it. The Julie Dance is an
> > overt S&M activity.
> >
> >
>
> It's like the old joke about the masochist and the sadist. The masochist
> says "Please... beat me, whip me... abuse me..." and the sadist says "No."

The way I heard it, and to me it seems more elegant: the masochist says to the
sadist "hurt me" and the sadist says "no".